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Old Jan 12, 2014 | 12:01 PM
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What do you guys think is more important, compression ratio or longer crank stroke ?
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Old Jan 12, 2014 | 12:05 PM
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no replacement for displacement
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Old Jan 12, 2014 | 04:08 PM
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Both. Depending on the purpose of your build, its all about finding the right combination of BOTH to serve your purpose, whatever you will be using the engine for.
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Old Jan 12, 2014 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by amtheiceman
Both. Depending on the purpose of your build, its all about finding the right combination of BOTH to serve your purpose, whatever you will be using the engine for.
Well I'm planning to build an engine to push around 3-4oo . I just can't decide if I should go 10:1 na . Or go 9:1 with a longer crank stroke turbo .
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Old Jan 12, 2014 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Flipmonkey

Well I'm planning to build an engine to push around 3-4oo . I just can't decide if I should go 10:1 na . Or go 9:1 with a longer crank stroke turbo .
10:1 turbo
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 06:55 AM
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10:1 turbo
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longer stroke will increase tq a good amount, but the hp increase wont be as much as the tq increase, due to increased piston speeds. ideally, an engine should be square, which means: stroke = bore. Hondas typically use strokes that are bigger than bore. if you want displacement, it will depend on what the car will be used for. larger stroke will be better for low and mid range power, not so much higher rpm power (not always true, but is fairly typical). larger bore will give more displacement just the same, but will allow the extra power to still carry out all the way to redline, with no adverse side effects, especially if aftermarket pistons are used that typically weigh less than stock pistons, even though they're larger diameter.
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Old Jan 14, 2014 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by motoxxxman
x2 longer stroke will increase tq a good amount, but the hp increase wont be as much as the tq increase, due to increased piston speeds. ideally, an engine should be square, which means: stroke = bore. Hondas typically use strokes that are bigger than bore. if you want displacement, it will depend on what the car will be used for. larger stroke will be better for low and mid range power, not so much higher rpm power (not always true, but is fairly typical). larger bore will give more displacement just the same, but will allow the extra power to still carry out all the way to redline, with no adverse side effects, especially if aftermarket pistons are used that typically weigh less than stock pistons, even though they're larger diameter.
Thanks for the info dude . Helps a lot . I plan on using eagle rods and can't decide on the pistons just yet . But it's a start . Thanks moto
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Old Jan 14, 2014 | 07:34 PM
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Thanks for the info dude . Helps a lot . I plan on using eagle rods and can't decide on the pistons just yet . But it's a start . Thanks moto
Before you get your piston take the time to get all the measurements such as deck hieght and chamber CCs to insure the correct comp ratio you desire. One benifit of running the bigger bore (depending on bore size) is you can do some chamber work that will not only help with radius deburring and low lift flow numbers that with a good set of cams can be one hell of a street car with a well balanced power band.
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Old Jan 15, 2014 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jdmconcepts
Before you get your piston take the time to get all the measurements such as deck hieght and chamber CCs to insure the correct comp ratio you desire. One benifit of running the bigger bore (depending on bore size) is you can do some chamber work that will not only help with radius deburring and low lift flow numbers that with a good set of cams can be one hell of a street car with a well balanced power band.
I have a b18c1 bored out to 84mm so far . And I'm waiting for my b16 head to come in
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