So I haven't used it in a while updated to 1.6.9rs and I can open map but when I go to make changes I get " access violation code". I tryed to get on pgmfi to figure out what's going on but can't log in. Any help would be appreciated.

 

im getting the same problem... john come to the rescue already!!!!

 

You are going to have to change your date back to get it to work. It is BS for those of us who have Dealer licenses and have to deal with this garbage. I EFing paid my dues - make my product work the way it should.

 

This is F#@king brutal......

 

whoever knows john should get ahold of him and get this resolved

 

John I believe in the Philippines still, he travels there for a few months at a time each year. I believe he posted that he is in an area that was severely affected by the latest tsunami to hit there.

I have limited contact with him and I reach out to him frequently

But you cannot EXPECT things to just get fixed over night. Crome never was, and is not a real business...it was a college project that helped propel Honda tuning to the market. If your upset, then MAN THE F UP and purchase Neptune Dealer from James at HR Tuning to get the service and features you expect.

 

Who said I haven't already done that or won't? I have ordered thousands of dollars from you and with comments like that you can go jump in a lake from now on. The point is if it is going to be abandoned then WHY MESS WITH IT AT ALL? Go back to 1.6.5 or whatever is the most stable and let it die. When you have broke *** kids that can only afford to pay for certain things it is what it is.

With your logic if I purchase something from your website that is junk (which you do sell some items that are lower quality) and it doesn't work then I should "MAN THE F UP" and purchase something of higher quality? Then why do you sell junk in the first place? Ohh to make money off the idiots who will buy it right? What a joke.

 

Lol if manning up means buying a product that can't suit my needs then I guess I need to just focus on my Evo and give up on the Hondas just as john did...
Like others have said he should leave it to people that care and want the community to still benefit from crome. I've been using crome since 08 and its barely starting to fall apart it seems.
John fixes things pretty fast most times. Nobody is bitching that bad that we need to go buy Neptune and only get to tune one car with it. I have 4 cars myself and I gotta buy a license for each car? Ridiculous... Crome ftw.

 

You can make changes to each cell if you double click on the cell and actually change/enter the numerical data. Complete PITA but it works.

 

If you're a Neptune dealer you get three free licenses to use for your own cars. It's a $500 fee, and additional licenses are $75. Your customers don't need a Demon, you can burn chips. It's great deal IMO.
But he doesn't just hand out dealer kits to any t00ner, you need a solid reputation.

 

Bump john fix this already lol

 

Hello xenocron my apologize for the mad people we have here!!! eventually we gonna get better may be getting neptune or any other program for tune. But if we bought this program it was for tunning reasons and it not going only for one car like neptune. but who ever is the owner of neptune u can let him know putting rules like that does not make bussines like it should. money talks and just think how many people right now have crome pro? now try to imagine all that poor people trying to make this happen with neptune. its gonna be million not thousand so i think why not if im not getting any money of this. i know its more people like me out there in the world does have three honda civics. Two of them turbo and one nitrous so i need three neptune program three demons. Thats more than $1,300 not avery body wants to invert that kind of money in ecu flashed. Dont u think? when all what we need is to fix a little problem with the increase and decrease section values. Please i know u are the only one right here can help us out. Give us a hand and remember we always gonna come back to xenocron!!!! Knowing u guys are the top of the line on this.

 

Ahhh, you think it's about the money. Sorry to disappoint. It's about quality software and quality customer service. As best as one person can manage alone, anyway.

You are trying to compare Crome to NepTune. I actually have respect for my software, my dealers, and the customers that use it. I actually fix bugs and release worthwhile updates. I'm here to answer emails and phone calls (Yes, that's actually me on the other end of every single one). If you feel Crome is more worth it to you than NepTune is you're very lucky that it's still an available option, considering. You can enjoy all of the benefits that you think it holds for the money you spend. I'm more about the quality, though. To each their own.

 

Crome is a college project that turned into a small 1 man show success.

Neptune is a commercial product with better than the norm support/updates & proprietary hardware modifications & toys (tunerview etc)

Both of these options are great in their own realm, they are both used to tune Hondas from the wonder years generation, however they are not in the same pool imho.

I am a computer engineer, I see things like this all the time. The college projects which go to the public are hit or miss. The commercial products are usually a good alternative if you need the active/live support behind it and have the funds to spend.

To those who compare the two- they are not in the same field to compare one another.

Neptune & Hondata you can compare - both commercial products with a customer support system.

Crome - 1 man show from a man who has some great know-how but is not his bread & butter as far as income goes. I personally am waiting on the next bugfix from Jon so we can tune one of my personal cars. (really just fixing a few hiccups after driving it and noting adjustments that need to be made, but have a good baseline thus far)

 

Should just go open source and let the world re-design the program.

 

I have been tuning with crome back in 2005 it was A LOT better then, then it is now... it wasnt that buggy back in the days so sure it didnt have all the bells and whistles it has now but look at everyone complain about how it runs lol... i still use version 1.5.5 that works with my demon just fine no problems what so ever...

I also am a neptune dealer and alot of people i tune their cars dont have extra money to purchase the license, and trust me i would rather tune cars on neptune it works soo flawlessly but alot of people dont want to pay the extra money

if you have problems with crome just get 1.5.5 it works just fine for me

 

Was Crome less buggy or just the know-how was less back then?

I have always been a Neptune fan since Crome would not give me a solid idle on a stock D16. Neptune did. I hope for people that they realize how much time and energy is put into a well working product. Support a company that WANTS your car to run right.

 

hahaha yea it was probably the other lol.. ive never really had a problem with crome till the demon interface came out with it, it works, but sometimes while tuning crome will just freeze and completely stop working..

and yes i will agree Neptune is a million times better.. even though i paid to have the pro version of crome so i can have data logging, other then that, it is still freeware in my eyes free is not good lol and i try to tell all these people that want crome soo bad in their eyes they dont see the difference when they have basicaly stock lsv or whatever basic setup they have, only the people with nicely setup engines are the ones who prefer the better program

 

thanks guys for ur opinions will see. for me instead to go neptune i will go to AEM. Its my opinion so its ok. Like you all know every body try to go chep. But if it doesnt work eventually we gonna move foward!!!! I still happy with my 427whp in my lil turbo d16. And in my H23- H2B with 237 whp ALL MOTOR with 100 shot of Nitrous already.

You all take it easy on the street!!

 

ive uninstalled it n reinstalled it only lets you fix each box 1 by 1 auto tune works better tho

 

if you read the crome manual in my signature, you'll find other ways of adjusting the tables.