The Cobalt Brake Systems brake upgrade kits will be available in final, production/retail version in 3 weeks. Here is a visual "mock-up" of what the final caliper will look like (placed on top of a Brembo 328mm x 28mm x-drilled 2-piece floating hat rotor for "effect"):

http://www.cobaltfriction.com/cobalt...T_BBK_MOCK.jpg

Enjoy... -Andie

 

Link doesn't work.

 

The link doesnt work Andie...

 

J00 have no \/\/38 5|<1||5!

Warren

 

works for me


good stuff Andie

 

Apologies...a little trigger-happy -- upload wasn't completed before I posted the link here. It should work now.

-Andie

 

 

looks good!


-nate

 

SO are you planning to use the 13" rotor? Can they fit under 16" rims?

In my opinion that is the bigest drawback to most of the 'serious' big brake kits out there. you have to run a 17" rim to fit them. Thats just overkill for a civic.

Mike

 

I will be looking into kits which will fit under OE wheels, however just as you pointed out (whether intentionally or not, with your choice of words), a "serious" (read: "real" and not a sort-of BBK) kit requires a larger rotor and increased clamping pressure. Cobalt's primary focus with BBK's is to develop true to form and function big brake upgrades.

After the Cobalt Brake Systems product line is stabilized, then I will look into have a smaller caliper which bolts to OE locations via an adapter bracket, while using the OE-size rotor for, if anything at all, increase fade resistance.

-Andie

 

So I'd just like to clarify, and I apologize if this has been asked already, but is it possible for me to run a 13" rotor under my 15" SSR wheels with a 4 piston caliper (which I presume Andie's are)? This, to me, is the ultimate set-up.

 

No...13" rotors require a 17" wheel.

We had a discussion about this before, but to clarify, if you put a larger caliper on an OE-sized rotor, you will increase clamping pressure only...and you risk premature rotor damage (due to a dramatic lack of thermal mass), as well as reduce modulation. IOW, it will look cool, but will have poor braking performance...this is the reason that such a kit is not on my priority list, because it is not "true high performance", IMO. However, I am investigating compromises, such as what AEM does...if there is sufficient demand, I may just as well resell the AEM kits.

-Andie

 

MaD SkIllZ YeLLoW!!!
thats extra MaDD StOppInG PoWaZ!

Looks good.

 

wow, good stuff

didnt think about it as that way

im definetly going to be ordering up some new pads & fluid from andie, espicially from all the good stuff i head, just have to get my car back and up & running

 

Andie, I don't think people are asking for OEM sized rotors in order to fit under 15" wheels--they are asking for a slightly larger rotor that will squeeze in 15" wheels, even if it limits your choice of wheels to those that provide particularly good brake clearance, such as the TE37. Usually, the rotors are just under 12", maybe 11.7".

AP makes a brake kit for Hondas that fits under certain 15" wheels. It provides a slightly larger and much thicker rotor, but it also requires careful wheel selection.

 

There are options already for smaller rotor kits. I fail to see the point of bringing yet another one into the market.

Andie, this is one occasion that you'd be better off advertising in the civic/integra/etc forums than in here... here, you could probably count the number of 17" wheels (on a honda/acura) on one hand...

 

Hehe...I'm not advertising, I'm informing. <grin> Also, I don't make a Civic kit...only GSR, ITR, NSX, S2000, and RSX-S.

I'd venture to say that 90% of the people who participate in this forum are not in sanctioned race series (most of which do not allow BBK's of this type), but are weekend HPDE enthusiasts. The HPDE market is far larger than the true race market, from what I have seen, and these are the people who will purchase BBK's.

JMO... -Andie


[Modified by cobalt, 4:19 PM 10/28/2002]

 

how about a compromise -> something that fits under a 16" wheel?

 

Actually, if you have them handy, could you post up some links to smaller kits that you've seen? I'm on the lookout for something I could use, but all I know about are the AP kit and the Spoon calipers. I also know that the gold Brembo calipers will fit, but they are very expensive.