Hey there, never really posted in this section, because i never had lately. But i recently got a 1999 civic sedan LX, that im very pleased with. I traded my integra for it, so that my wife would have a nice car good on gas and automatic. We just had a baby so we needed something more family oriented. Well as far as some sort of aftermarket coilover not sure what brand really the car is all stock. Not really looking for going fast with this car but i wanted to beef up the suspension just to make it feel more tight to the road and a good ride. Any one got suggestions i have an open ear. Thanks for stopping by


Heres my old car


And the new new

 

you should have kept the Teg ! the car being an auto I really can't say do anything to it if you'd like a stiffer ride that isn't a track set up, F&F type 1's are popular and cheap and allow you to be riding on the ground virtually.

 

I wouldnt mind laying the car out for a weekend cruise but i want a setup where if it stock height it ride and feels good. I had good reasons if letting the integra go, my family comes first and that car just wasnt going to do it for my wife and newborn. Besides i an on building one when i reach california next year, circuit function thou. I really want to experience circuit racing, in hawaii we have no track so we leave our races on the streets.

 

Hows F&F ride? Is it bouncy with the coils spinned up to a stock height? Also when slammed? What kind if sway bars would work good on these cars and from where.

 

not sure just picked some up for my civic once the winter is gone lol don't want them to seize up and all. if your wife and kid will be in the car don't actually slam the car it's a harsh ride. upgraded sway bars will not prove useful on the car for a DD just bling factor. if you're looking for a stock height/feel I'd just get some KYB AGX's and find a spring that drops it an inch or so.

 

Function/Form is trash. Too soft for track use, too hard for street use. Koni/GC is the way to go for a budget suspension. I've also heard good things about Progress CS-II, but don't have any personal experience on them. If you're really wanting to "tighten it up", get some solid upper and lower strut tower bars (solid is important - if it has a joint, it's pointless) and consider a 17-21mm rear sway bar.

 

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Thanks B swapped93 for your input, you been catching me on both my post lol. I will consider that setup you mentioned, maybe with skunk 2 springs and sleeves....yeah that sounds like a pretty good setup.

What kind of setup do you rub in the gsr track star ??

 

lol Junk2. I thought you said you didn't want bouncy?

 

Really so my best bet is koni shocks with ground control coils. Howmuch do they run?
Also where can i get the sway bar from? Would itr sway bars work ?

And explain upper and lower strut tower bars please. Those are the ones in the hood and trunk and i right?

 

https://honda-tech.com/forums/wheels-tires-brakes-suspension-48/koni-shock-ground-control-coilover-combo-2028746/

http://www.ground-control-store.com/...p/II=681/CA=71

Yes, the strut tower bars are the ones on top and below the struts, in the hood and trunk. You'll see the most from a 3 point front upper, if you only want to buy one. Installing one in the trunk would require some...creative modification, and would reduce trunk space.

Yes, an ITR sway bar would fit within your limits.

 

Suspension set up as follows:Tein flex coilovers, buddy club F/R camber kit, 15x7.5 with 225mm R888's and function 7 LCAs, ES polly master bushing kit and F/R DC strut bars . Still on the stock sway bars believe it or not lol !. the reason I recommend the KYB AGX's s that's what I first had on the car when I got it and rode nice but firm on the street.

 

Thanks for the link, getting those butterflies just thinking of ordering my pair lol

I dont understand the lower strut tower bar thou, i can see how its ob top but theres a separate lower strut bar as well?

Yeah i trunk would need to be as useable as possible for that stroller

 

Wow that track set up sounds nice, i read tein and that was it from there lol. The eg hatch i test drove on thanksgiving had tein suspension and that was about the only thing i had going for him. Took turns real nice and tight felt in control through the whole apex and bumps wasnt a thing to it.

 

Yes, you can get upper and lower strut tower bars. they're both there to keep the suspension from "wobbling". The upper is the most noticeable difference, and for a family car, lowers would probably be overkill.

 

What spring rate should i get from ground control? Anyone

 

I'd go with 350/300 for the ground controls and get a bnib ASR rear sway for around $170.

Also check the Honda-Tech Marketplace sponsors if the price would be fair shipped to Hawaii:
http://hondamarketplace.com/showthread.php?t=2028746
http://hondamarketplace.com/showthread.php?t=2774824
http://hondamarketplace.com/showthread.php?t=2293607

 

Koni and GC are nice. But Koni valving and stiff enough spring rates to keep the car off the bump stops might make for too harsh of a suspension for this guy's purposes.

I got coilovers for my TSX because I wanted to lower the car without it feeling lowered since the purpose of that particular car was comfort and a slight (~2 to 2.5") drop. I got Tein Street Advance coils. They're nice if you're only looking for a good ride and a drop. They were crazy cheap. I think I paid like $835 for em? Really nice features and the car glides over everything. Plus Tein makes pretty good quality stuff.

I love Koni/GC and that's what I was using on my ITR (360F/380R) when I bought my TSX. My S2000 has KW V3 with 680/570 rates. I wanted ONE car to ride like stock lol. Anyway...those tein street advances are highly recommended.

 

If the integra was auto I would've kepted it so I'm guessing that was the reason why you switched to an auto civic sedan. If this is going to be family oriented than I don't think you wanna go low. I'm not sure how the roads are where you are but going low is going to be a hassle for the wife and kid. Not to mention dodging the bumps and pot holes. I think TIENS also make a spring rate that is comfortable, or soft, and still lowers the ride but not too much. But considering you're riding around on low profile tires you will definitely still feel the bumps.

 

Wobbling? Or provide chassis stiffening?
Personally id just skip those as they dont provide much of anything. Just bling IMO.

OP id second the recommendation of the Koni Yellow OTS shocks and GC coilovers.
Dont go over the 300-350 rates. The OTS shocks cant take more than a 500lbs spring without compromising it.
Also raise that car back up and get some camber correction on it.
Remember its a family car first... Nobody wants their fillings to come loose, nor do you want to replace tires every 6 months either.
Kids are like second mortgages, your money is better spent on them.
Sways............ leave it off, its a family street car right?
Save that for when you build your own car for the circuit.
Look me up when you get back to the golden state.
FYI.. caution to you when you start your build. Do not rush out there and buy every go fast part known to man.
Start off with a bone stock car and hit some HPDE events.
Seat time and lots of it will make you a more balanced driver.
Cars aren't fast..... its the driver behind the wheel that makes it go fast.

 

Hell0Curry

You may have better luck with your question in the SUSPENSION subform. https://honda-tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes-54/

In particular, Libretariate did a nice review on several setups with some theory intermixed. It's stickied in the suspension form but here's a nice link: https://honda-tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes-54/click-here-all-you-curious-about-suspension-setups-their-costs-reliability-2967499/

Also, good on you for putting the family first. If only everyone did that.

 

I concur. I have Koni/GC with 500f/400r spring rates and I'm tucking my 195/40/16 tires. Personally I love the ride, nice and tight with no bounce, but pretty forgiving as well. However, for a family ride 350f/300r would probably be better, and about double what the stock rates are IIRC. I wouldn't drop it down too far with those rates, maybe 2" or so.

 

300lbs is atleast 3X the stock rear rates.

 

I'm VERY glad somebody beat me to this.
but serious, stop replying until you've read that thread, entirely.

 

I'll stick to my type r setup on my 00 sedan. Looks somewhat low and its stiff enough for my uses. Front stock swaybar and rear is an integra 13mm swaybar. Strut bars are a waste as I don't take turns that crazy but if I did find a set of type r's I'll install them.