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Old Nov 20, 2013 | 06:31 PM
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Hey everyone, need some help here. So my 99 DC with an LS/V won't turn over. When I try I just hear a clicking?!? I know this is covered everywhere but I am at a loss here. I can build motors but for the life of me, I can't figure this out. I know it is something stupid and I am hoping that some outside perspective will help me figure this out. Here is what I have tested so far:

1. 12.6V give or take to starter
2. Over 12V at signal cable at starter when trying to start
3. Checked tranny/valve cover/thermo ground to chassis, all less than .1 ohm
4. Ran jumper wire from battery to solenoid, starter turns motor over fine
5. Pulled starter and bench tested, everything works fine
6. Pulled clutch switch, resistance was .01 when pressed
7. Jumpered wires on clutch switch just in case
8. Ran jumper cable ground from starter body to battery ground just in case

I think that is it. I think that is all I can really do but I know I am probably missing something. Son is in school now and wife needs main car. I'm in the Navy and really need to get this thing running! Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
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Old Nov 20, 2013 | 06:39 PM
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Manual? Single click or "battery dead" click? Does it happen all the time or every once in a while?
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Old Nov 20, 2013 | 06:49 PM
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rapid clicking or "click" then nothing my bet is main relay not an uncommon issue on these cars.
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Old Nov 20, 2013 | 07:14 PM
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main relay and starter solenoid are the two most likely places you have a failure

main relay tends to die more often
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Old Nov 20, 2013 | 07:35 PM
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Manual? Single click or "battery dead" click? Does it happen all the time or every once in a while?
Manual. Single click. Happens all the time. Use to work but car was down for awhile while deployed then rebuilt motor when I got back.

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rapid clicking or "click" then nothing my bet is main relay not an uncommon issue on these cars.
Click then nothing. Was also having a spark issue and was trying to solve that then this happened. Thinking both of those issues together could be main relay?

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main relay and starter solenoid are the two most likely places you have a failure

main relay tends to die more often
Solenoid is fine if I can jump it straight from the battery correct? It still goes through the solenoid but bypasses the main relay.
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Old Nov 20, 2013 | 07:44 PM
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if you're jumping it directly via the battery then yes you bypass the main relay, which can also cause a no spark issue.
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Old Nov 20, 2013 | 07:55 PM
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if you're jumping it directly via the battery then yes you bypass the main relay, which can also cause a no spark issue.
Sounds like it is worth a shot. Any suggestions for testing?
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Old Nov 20, 2013 | 07:58 PM
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https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?p=44869576 I just replace them for the price of it.


more test diagrams:https://www.google.ca/search?q=integ...w=1366&bih=673


if the solder points look cracked then there's your issue


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Old Nov 20, 2013 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by B_Swapped93
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?p=44869576 I just replace them for the price of it.


more test diagrams:https://www.google.ca/search?q=integ...w=1366&bih=673


if the solder points look cracked then there's your issue


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Haha, thanks!! I got a crazy solder station at work (work on weapon systems in the navy) so I will probably take it there and check it out.
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 07:13 AM
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The PGM-FI Main Relay has nothing to do with engine cranking.

My guess is it is the high current contact in the starter motor or a bad ground.

Start by redoing your main grounds, batt. post/cable clamp, batt. to chassis and chassis to engine grounds.

If still not cranking...
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...ht=fix+starter 94
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 10:37 AM
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The PGM-FI Main Relay has nothing to do with engine cranking.

My guess is it is the high current contact in the starter motor or a bad ground.

Start by redoing your main grounds, batt. post/cable clamp, batt. to chassis and chassis to engine grounds.

If still not cranking...
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...ht=fix+starter 94
That's what I though but was worth looking. I checked all grounds and measured resistance also. Also tried direct ground with jumper cable to chassis and no go. I am thinking contact in motor also but would it work when I jump directly to the starter with bad contacts?
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 01:07 PM
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but would it work when I jump directly to the starter with bad contacts?
No, the click you hear is the solenoid plunger, [working] but the contacts are so worn out a connection to the starter motor is not being made.

If you scroll down on the link I posted a pix of new and old contacts.

We, [Dave Ward Auto Electric] have done 7-8 Honda/Acura starters this year, all of them 10 years or older, the one in the link is my 94RS. 94
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 06:04 PM
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No, the click you hear is the solenoid plunger, [working] but the contacts are so worn out a connection to the starter motor is not being made.

If you scroll down on the link I posted a pix of new and old contacts.

We, [Dave Ward Auto Electric] have done 7-8 Honda/Acura starters this year, all of them 10 years or older, the one in the link is my 94RS. 94
Awesome, thanks for the help! I actually picked up the parts today, will be trying tomorrow. Thanks again!
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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 06:21 AM
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YW. 94
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