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Old Oct 6, 2013 | 03:18 PM
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lookin for the best mid range cam for my setup was looking to have my cam reground or buy a blox cam out of the 3 what one would be the best mid range power for my build
b17 regrind
in230°/12mm . ex227°/11.5
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blox type c
in265°/12mm ex265°/11.5mm
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blox type b
in 266°/12mm ex266°/11.8mm

my setup
b18c1 block
b18c1 crank
b18c1 rods
pr3 pistons .020 over
b16a head port matched and casting cleand up
blox valve springs
blox flat ex valves
blox intake
68mm intake
4to2to1 hedder
7lb flywheel
i should have a 11:1.1 compression and a 0.035in piston to deck hight this is going to be my DD so i need a stockish non vtec lobe

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Old Oct 6, 2013 | 04:35 PM
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Regrind long lasting don't belong in the same sentence get a type r cam they are one of the best
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Old Oct 6, 2013 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by stickranger
Regrind long lasting don't belong in the same sentence get a type r cam they are one of the best
type r cams are overrated just for the word type r i would rather spend 500 on a set of new cams i have had a few regrinds on chevy small blocks thay never gave me a problem
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Old Oct 6, 2013 | 07:12 PM
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When u regrind a cam you reduce its base circle to gain lift which on a over head cam can be very destructive to the rocker arm assembly because of such aggresive ramping it can scrape the oil right off of the rocker pad a pushrod motor cam is not in direct contact with rockers I've had personal experience with regrinds on my b16 as well as seen many customers heads that have either wore out regrinds quickly or complete destruction of cam journals and rocker arms.. just try n to help you out that's all. But if want regrinds most of them are made by web cam who grinds a lot of other companies cams including bisi they would prob be your best bet. A billet or cast cam will be a better option though
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Old Oct 6, 2013 | 07:16 PM
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I have delta regrinds. The delta 272. It pulls hard. I'm very happy. Costs under $300. Best part is you don't have to upgrade your valve train.
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by stickranger
When u regrind a cam you reduce its base circle to gain lift which on a over head cam can be very destructive to the rocker arm assembly because of such aggresive ramping it can scrape the oil right off of the rocker pad a pushrod motor cam is not in direct contact with rockers I've had personal experience with regrinds on my b16 as well as seen many customers heads that have either wore out regrinds quickly or complete destruction of cam journals and rocker arms.. just try n to help you out that's all. But if want regrinds most of them are made by web cam who grinds a lot of other companies cams including bisi they would prob be your best bet. A billet or cast cam will be a better option though
how about the pro 1s
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 05:47 AM
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Which cam are you sending as a core? How big do you plan on going?
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by mugen4door
how about the pro 1s
Yes, they work well. but you won't be able to regrind TO a Pro1.
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by TheShodan

Yes, they work well. but you won't be able to regrind TO a Pro1.
thanks for the info any experience with blox cams
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 08:09 AM
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you need to figure out exactly what you want to do. You have PM'd me about cams and stuff like 5 times now. Pic a set and stick to it. Honestly with your compression and build the Type R cams are not "hyped" up. They would do great. Otherwise something along the lines of a tuner 1 or 2 would be the best bang for the buck. I ran a set of the delta 282 regrinds in an old motor and they did well. That car was stolen before I had too many miles put on it though.
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Originally Posted by mugen4door
thanks for the info any experience with blox cams
<----not a fan of blox products. They are basically theives themselves. Box up everyone elses hard work and sell it as their own with little or no R&D
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 08:54 AM
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Just last week talked to a guy who has destroyed 2 rocker arm assemblys with a blox cam in a d16z6 I personally wouldn't run them. Most important no matter what your choice run a zinc additive the EPA has really screwed our oil up taking out key additives that protect the cams. Comp cams makes a good additive.
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I run blox c cams and Ihave a few friends that have over 2 years with there blox cams and never had a problem. I'm sure this has been covered in HT so many times. You can get everybodies op, but I think its how hard you push any product and what you want it for. Now I have about 6,000 miles on my build and I have not had a problem with my blox type c's yet, lol but you never know.
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 93egSLEEPER
you need to figure out exactly what you want to do. You have PM'd me about cams and stuff like 5 times now. Pic a set and stick to it. Honestly with your compression and build the Type R cams are not "hyped" up. They would do great. Otherwise something along the lines of a tuner 1 or 2 would be the best bang for the buck. I ran a set of the delta 282 regrinds in an old motor and they did well. That car was stolen before I had too many miles put on it though.
sorry if i bothered u i would just like to get the best bang for my Buck and a good cam i rather have someone ask me a **** ton of questions than none at all
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by jdragon1974
I run blox c cams and Ihave a few friends that have over 2 years with there blox cams and never had a problem. I'm sure this has been covered in HT so many times. You can get everybodies op, but I think its how hard you push any product and what you want it for. Now I have about 6,000 miles on my build and I have not had a problem with my blox type c's yet, lol but you never know.
thanks for your input i am not looking to push my car all to hard just every now and then just an upgrade over stock would be nice
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by stickranger
Just last week talked to a guy who has destroyed 2 rocker arm assemblys with a blox cam in a d16z6 I personally wouldn't run them. Most important no matter what your choice run a zinc additive the EPA has really screwed our oil up taking out key additives that protect the cams. Comp cams makes a good additive.
i know that the EPA has pulled too much additves out i have pumps motors and cylinders come back after 6 months
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by stickranger
Which cam are you sending as a core? How big do you plan on going?
was going to do a set of b17 cams 12mm on intake and 11.8 on the ex
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sorry if i bothered u i would just like to get the best bang for my Buck and a good cam i rather have someone ask me a **** ton of questions than none at all
You didn't bug me I'm just saying you need to narrow down your options. The crower 402's would work decent that you asked me about. The blox c's are essentially jun 3's which are a great cam as well. The tuner 2's perform well in just about every motor I have seen a dyno on. The BC and Skunks will be much higher quality and the companies will stand behind their products much better.
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 93egSLEEPER

You didn't bug me I'm just saying you need to narrow down your options. The crower 402's would work decent that you asked me about. The blox c's are essentially jun 3's which are a great cam as well. The tuner 2's perform well in just about every motor I have seen a dyno on. The BC and Skunks will be much higher quality and the companies will stand behind their products much better.
thank you i am just trying to get the most out of my motor without having it blow up i want a cam that's better than stock i am geting it tuned as soon as the motor is together. so i think ill do the tuner 2s or the blox type C's.
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Originally Posted by 93egSLEEPER
You didn't bug me I'm just saying you need to narrow down your options. The crower 402's would work decent that you asked me about. The blox c's are essentially jun 3's which are a great cam as well. The tuner 2's perform well in just about every motor I have seen a dyno on. The BC and Skunks will be much higher quality and the companies will stand behind their products much better.
I wil say +1 on this...I have never seen skunk2 or bc break or fail, I will say I will never use AEM cam gears or Blox, bad luck with personal experience.
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Typically, you can fit 10 degrees more duration and about 0.7 to 1.0mm more lift without making the base circle too small, which affects how many teeth the locknut will engage on the valve tappet.

Also affected by the smaller base circle is where the cam lobe contacts the rocker pad. On BVTEC, the rocker ratio (RR) is reduced, reducing "cam action." On LS the RR is increased, with the decreased base circle, making it a lil spicier from the increased RR alone.
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jdragon1974

I wil say +1 on this...I have never seen skunk2 or bc break or fail, I will say I will never use AEM cam gears or Blox, bad luck with personal experience.
i have str cam gears no problems with them
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Originally Posted by mugen4door
type r cams are overrated just for the word type r i would rather spend 500 on a set of new cams i have had a few regrinds on chevy small blocks thay never gave me a problem




could you explain why you say itr cams are overrated? my ctr cams helped me do this in this vid! nice bottom end tq and good midrange.


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Old Oct 8, 2013 | 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by vtecmasta85

could you explain why you say itr cams are overrated? my ctr cams helped me do this in this vid! nice bottom end tq and good midrange.

Video Link: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=arifuqtoXmA
because for the price for a set of them used i can get a set of new cams from skunk2 or blox and not a fan of using someone elses cams i don't know what there life has been like used parts are never my favorite thing to get
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[QUOTE=vtecmasta85;49201559]could you explain why you say itr cams are overrated? my ctr cams helped me do this in this vid! nice bottom end tq and good midrange.


That is a nice pull sir.
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