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Will this ECU still data log? Or should I sell for a new one?

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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 11:41 PM
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Default Will this ECU still data log? Or should I sell for a new one?

Ok so i have a P06 that has been chipped and socketed like a P28 w/ chrome.

I recently bought my a Neptune/Demon and wanted to install. But this is how my data logging spot looks on my ECU...... I know it will still work and function as a ecu, but will it still data log is my real question...?






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Old Sep 12, 2013 | 04:15 AM
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as it sits right now, no, it will not datalog. it is possible though to fix, it'd require installing the header and soldering a wire to that pin and to the actual component's pin that tracing runs to.
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Old Sep 12, 2013 | 05:45 AM
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Without repair it won't datalog or run the vehicle properly. Repair or get a new one.
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Old Sep 12, 2013 | 03:28 PM
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Repair is an easy fix, just trace where it goes and install a wire running to those spots. FYI the one with the wire trace lifted up is not used at least in the data loggers I use.
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Old Sep 13, 2013 | 05:31 AM
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For NepTune/Demon combo it is.
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Old Sep 13, 2013 | 05:58 PM
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Hey just wanted to say thanks to everyone who responded. I ended up just buying a integra PO6 off of someone today on craigslist. Since there was a chipping kit included with the demon from Moates.net. I decided this time to let someone who is familiar working with circuit board chip the new ecu, and install the data logger for me. I have relatives who went to school for computer repair and programming to help me out.

I tried... maybe Il attempt again later down the road. Gota start somewhere. I believe my major problem was being ill prepared. I didnt own that solder "sucker" tool to remove the solder in the holes. Which was how i ruined it trying to get it out... I guess there's some copper or metallic wire you can use to remove it as well.

But ecu's aren't free and after ruining my perfectly good chipped and socketed civic Po6. I just want it done and installed so I can go play with the neptune program lol.
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Sparksman
I guess there's some copper or metallic wire you can use to remove it as well.
yes, there is, and I don't recommend using it. I've attempted using that stuff multiple times before too, and these pins are too small, it usually burns the tracing before sucking up all the solder from the hole. total pita to get right, at least for me. solder sucker works perfect for me, quick and easy, takes a couple tries to get right the first time though. so keep your bunk ecu for practicing if you want to learn how to do that stuff
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 02:03 PM
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I watched tons of videos of how they work, and how to chip them myself. There is deff a market for making a little side money doing it.

I left my cousin the new ecu, the chip kit, and the old ecu encase the kit was missing something to use as a donor. I may try to fix and sell the old ecu when I get it back. I dropped $40 bucks on the new ecu which i thought was a decent deal. Once fixed I bet I could sell the old one already chipped and socketed for $60-$75 bucks on CL. It would just need a new flash tune if your not running a H22A4.
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 05:46 PM
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the market for chipped ecu's is crazy. there's waaaaay too many people selling them now for dirt cheap, 90% is done horribly and can not be trusted. pretty much requires making a name for yourself and offering lifetime warranty in order to make halfway decent money. and of course cheap virgin ecu's helps, and $40 that you paid is crazy low for a good condition virgin ecu. virgin ecu prices has also skyrocketed the last few years.
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 07:33 PM
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Market for chipped ECU = Downhill.
Price for virgin ECU = Fairly high

A lot of people say they can chip ECU but when it comes to programming a chip they are just street rats. A majority of the people I have met who says they can chip and tune an obd1 does such a shitty job that even a third grader can do better.
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 08:06 PM
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a lot of people who say they are good at chipping ecu's also burn the board and permanently damage tracing, similar to what's pictured above.
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 09:16 PM
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I paid about fair market value for my virgin po6. I see virgins go for between $30-$60 on CL. Ive seen virgin P28's for between $80-$120. socketed po6's go for $50-$80 and socketed p28's go for $100-$130. These prices are based off of what I see on CL, I also live near a international raceway and maybe that alters prices i dont know.

I could almost just flip virgin ecu's at the varying prices I see. One guy I called wouldnt budge off of $65 firm. I had another guy drive almost across town to deliver mine for $40 bucks. I emailed a guy for a $30 dollar one and he emailed me back. Only after I already had bought the other one though.

Also it depends on what the ecu has been touched with. Obviously a ecu with Hondata or Neptune will sell for more.

Ive seen local shops with warranties asking $150 to chip and make a obd1 chrome map.

If I ever did I would buy the proper equipment and take my time. Im sure you have screwed your fair share of things up with your learning curve over the years. I dont have no immediate interest but I know I could master the art if I wanted to. There not that complicated, nothing ever is once you learn about them.

As for tuning, I wouldnt its that simple. I would do and sell the hardware and have them go through a tuner shop to get a flashed chip. Those base maps are only really meant for break ins, and driving to the dyno shop anyhow.
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 09:27 PM
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Actually, desoldering braid works great. So does a proper desoldering kit. Unless you don't know what you're doing you can't really go wrong either way. It's best to practice on scrap parts first of you're just getting into it.
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