All Motor / Naturally Aspirated No power adders

All motor a little dissapointed

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 1, 2013 | 11:35 AM
  #1  
bpoweredeg6's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 99
Likes: 1
Default All motor a little dissapointed

So I have a fully built poor man type r and just got it tuned and it only made 185 whp. Gsr block with 12:1 je pistons eagle rods acl bearings. B16 head with skunk2 valve train and pro 2 cams. Skunk2 Im and tb with rmf header and 2.5 exhaust. I thought it would easily make 200+whp
Old Sep 1, 2013 | 12:33 PM
  #2  
DDTECH's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 7,635
Likes: 3
From: Baton Rouge,Louisiana
Default Re: All motor a little dissapointed

Who tune it?

What is a full list of break down parts?

Where are the cams at...
Old Sep 1, 2013 | 12:45 PM
  #3  
bpoweredeg6's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 99
Likes: 1
Default Re: All motor a little dissapointed

Xenocron tuned and he said it was a safe 185. Said that the im and header were hurting it top end
Old Sep 1, 2013 | 12:52 PM
  #4  
DDTECH's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 7,635
Likes: 3
From: Baton Rouge,Louisiana
Default Re: All motor a little dissapointed

Originally Posted by bpoweredeg6
Xenocron tuned and he said it was a safe 185. Said that the im and header were hurting it top end
Chris harris knows exactly whats going on then. If he's your tuner, Listen to him. Upgrade the Header and IM and go back. What were the pro2's degreed to? Or did you just bring it to him without having any clearances checked?
Old Sep 1, 2013 | 12:58 PM
  #5  
bpoweredeg6's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 99
Likes: 1
Default Re: All motor a little dissapointed

I trust him, I know that he knows what he's doing. I was upset with the builder. I don't know if the cams were degreed honestly. The car moves though, I'm hoping for 12 seconds. In the winter ill pull it apart and change what he said and degree everything myself
Old Sep 1, 2013 | 12:59 PM
  #6  
bpoweredeg6's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 99
Likes: 1
Default Re: All motor a little dissapointed

Only thing that I set myself was valve lash
Old Sep 1, 2013 | 01:02 PM
  #7  
DDTECH's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 7,635
Likes: 3
From: Baton Rouge,Louisiana
Default Re: All motor a little dissapointed

Where are the pro2 cams set at?

And if your builder didn't degree the cams and charged you for it, I'd get a refund or something.

Degreeing is just a starting point. Its just as important to know your p2v and v2v as well..
Old Sep 1, 2013 | 01:08 PM
  #8  
bpoweredeg6's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 99
Likes: 1
Default Re: All motor a little dissapointed

I know and he mentioned that also. I was just upset it didn't make more power
Old Sep 1, 2013 | 02:02 PM
  #9  
d16z6Tcrx's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,611
Likes: 0
From: south jerz
Default Re: All motor a little dissapointed

compression test?
Old Sep 1, 2013 | 02:30 PM
  #10  
bpoweredeg6's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 99
Likes: 1
Default Re: All motor a little dissapointed

245 per cylinder
Old Sep 1, 2013 | 03:03 PM
  #11  
98vtec's Avatar
moderator emeritus
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 16,357
Likes: 6
From: Cantonment, FL
Default Re: All motor a little dissapointed

Its just a number.

For future reference, post a graph. The peak number isn't saying anything. The graph paints a large picture
Old Sep 1, 2013 | 03:04 PM
  #12  
SR20S13's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 949
Likes: 0
From: NWCCT
Default Re: All motor a little dissapointed

185 on his dyno is more like 210/220 on a dynojet.... Btw my car made 185 on his new dyno and 213 on his old dyno for comparison sake
Old Sep 1, 2013 | 03:10 PM
  #13  
f@sth@tch89's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 4,946
Likes: 0
From: wEsT of WattS...NoRth oF CompTon, CA
Default Re: All motor a little dissapointed

What fuel are you using?
Old Sep 1, 2013 | 03:18 PM
  #14  
dueyx99's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 119
Likes: 0
Default Re: All motor a little dissapointed

the boys at xenocron know what they are doing, this thread is b/s
Old Sep 1, 2013 | 03:26 PM
  #15  
solis153's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 134
Likes: 0
Default Re: All motor a little dissapointed

Op clearly stated he's not upset with the tune.
He's upset with builder.
Old Sep 1, 2013 | 05:48 PM
  #16  
98vtec's Avatar
moderator emeritus
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 16,357
Likes: 6
From: Cantonment, FL
Default Re: All motor a little dissapointed

the only reason this thread is here is because his peak power didnt match others inflated dyno numbers on the internet.

Fact - Numbers dont tell you anything.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
93ivtec
All Motor / Naturally Aspirated
13
Mar 24, 2011 05:25 PM
b18jdmteg
All Motor / Naturally Aspirated
5
Sep 26, 2006 06:34 AM
boosted k20
All Motor / Naturally Aspirated
10
Jul 29, 2005 11:00 AM
c1civic
Honda Prelude
8
May 17, 2004 09:24 AM
98CivicDX
Acura Integra
23
Jan 30, 2002 07:46 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:13 PM.