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Old Aug 27, 2013 | 06:38 PM
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I have a 96 spec JDM Type R motor that has the Honda P2T Mitsuba SM-422-12 starter. The starter is going bad (not completely sure if it just the solenoid or the motor as well) and I am looking to replace it but I realize there is no exact USDM equivalent to this starter.

The 96-97 Civics use a Mitsuba SM-422-09 (Honda part number 31200-P2C-004) and the 99-00 Civic Si uses a Mitsuba SM-442-13 (Honda part number 31200-P2T-J01). Are either of these able to fit into my JDM transmission/flywheel? I may want to just purchase a new OEM solenoid from one of these starters if it can directly replace my current solenoid.

Additionally, since it easier to repair the Nippondenso 228000-7200 (Honda part number 31200-P73-A01) starter from the USDM Type R using $20 dollar Nippondenso replacement contacts, I would rather have one of these so I can periodically rebuild the solenoid if necessary. Does anyone know if these starters will directly replace my current JDM starter? I know there is an issue with USDM starters in JDM flywheels, but I am not even sure what a JDM flywheel is.. I have a JDM Type R transmission of course and I put in a 7.5lb Fidanza flywheel right when I got the motor. Does that mean I have a JDM flywheel?
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Old Aug 27, 2013 | 08:00 PM
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http://torontojdm.com/cart.php?targe...ategory_id=137

I hope this helps, I bought some 98spec suspension from these people and they still work great a year after. I know it's used and it's hit or miss really, but I didn't know there was a difference between starters, which I'm glad I know now.

If you really want new, I know a couple exporters in Japan, that do parts if it comes down to that. I hope somebody knows what starters would fit it. I'm gonna take a look at which one I have in mine tomorrow.
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 03:01 AM
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Any 5spd b-series starter will fit.
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 05:41 AM
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I am not sure I want to get another used one, cause I will eventually need to rebuild it again. I can get another used Mitsuba SM-422-12 for $65 from Steve at H Motors. I think this will be my last resort.

Do you think I should just repair my current starter at a local starter shop for $60 (with a 1 year warranty)?

If any B series starter will fit, is it recommended that I get another starter where the solenoid can easily be repaired with new contacts and a plunger? Or is this starter with the smaller solenoid actually better? Also, if what you say is true, rd91sib18c5r, then why is there a known problem with USDM starters and JDM flywheels?
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 06:14 AM
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Out of the 4 Jdm swaps I bought I never ever had a problem when replacing the starter with its aftermarket counterpart from local parts stores.
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 08:02 AM
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all b series manual starters are the same. Just grab one from a local auto parts place
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 08:59 AM
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ekcoupeh22, for a JDM 96 Type R you mean to say you would get an aftermarket starter for a USDM 97 Type R starter?

thundernoodle, why are the shafts longer on some of the B series starters? Also the Denso one uses a different solenoid type than the Mitsuba, but is one preferred over the other?
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 09:08 AM
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I usually got them for a gsr or Si just for the fact there always is a type r tax.
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 10:32 AM
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Haha, I see. So it appears that any size shaft will work, because I am pretty sure GSRs use the Nippondenso with a much shorter shaft.
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 01:27 PM
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get an oem type r one. it's lighter by .03 ozs and starts up slightly faster than the gsr one.

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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 04:37 PM
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Are you talking about the USDM Type R? If so, that is incorrect because the USDM Type R and the USDM GSR use the same starter. Honda part number 31200-P73-A01 (Nippondenso 228000-7200)
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 03:54 PM
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I know the thread is old, but I have a RSX type R JDM K20a installed in my Honda Insight with a sketchy and dying starter. It states on the top that it's a Denso 280-0367. Here's a Amazon link. Hope this helps someone.
http://www.amazon.com/Denso-280-0367-Remanufactured-Super-Starter/dp/B0027RSPD8 http://www.amazon.com/Denso-280-0367-Remanufactured-Super-Starter/dp/B0027RSPD8
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 03:55 PM
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G3 Starter Rebuild - Team Integra Forums - Team Integra
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