so i need to get the ole civic 91 si smoged this month.

i took everything emissions related out. i still have it all.

whats the bare minimum parts i need to put back so i can pass smog?


also in addition, how do you guys make it pass with a Y8 head on a D16A6.

 

U need to put everything emission related back on

 

well after looking at the parts i have i dont think i have everything.

is there a how to site to putting on a d16a6 y8 back together?

 

You need the dash pots,charcoal canister, egr, no chip in ecu, cat, and that's all i can think of right now

 

There isn't an EGR on your motor so don't worry about that.
If you have a chip in your ECU they will never know and they do not open ECUs to check. Just make sure your fuel and timing maps are tuned for your engine or you will likely fail for running too rich or lean.

In addition to suggestions above, you need the PCV, no ECU codes or check engine light, proper CARB approved exhaust manifold (stock would be nice if you still have it), and vacuum lines ran to the proper places.



QUESTION -
why do you ask for a site on put the D16A6 and Y8 back together?
Sounds like you may have done a 'mini-me' and have the Y8 head and intake manifold on. Those are grounds for an instant fail during visual inspection before they even smog test.

 

They didn't open your Ecu... A place did by me and I failed just from that(back then I still had all emissions items), still looking for a "guy."

 

What did you have disabled to make them do that?
Was your O2 wire hanging there and you didn't have an O2, yet no CEL?
That's bizarre.
Just the liability alone for digging into a $$$pricey ECU is crazy to consider.


Part of a normal SMOG check does not include the tech opening the ECU.
Either you pass the visual and tailpipe or you don't.
It's not a tech's job to hunt down a problem if you fail... unless you are paying them to do that.
It's their job to verify that you have the correct equipment and that it's working.
If they unplug sensors then your CEL should come on. If it doesn't then you fail.

 

I had the o2 wire out,it was disabled on the ecu, I just left it out of the pin and had no carpet at the time, so I assume he saw and checked. And I failed.

 

yeah what happend to all the "guy"?
i have heard many "guy's" in los angeles are closing down. whats up with that?

 

Because the "guy" is illegal.

 

The "guy" gets caught one time for being the "guy" and his license gets revoked.

 

Cali smog laws suck so much. Damn eco nuts haha.

 

Is it a mini me swap?

 

You can just say your car does not run.

 

i did some research and started hearing about the "star" program. where they assign certain smog tech's with the label star on their station.

so instead of dealing with all the public they deal with the smog techs instead. giving them like special certification. only a few selected people get these certs. since only a selected few stations will get the certification they dont want to loose that title. so they dont chance it and do the illegal way anymore. therefore the state stops the illegal smogging.

so far only brand new cars will go to the normal smog stations. older cars or cars that are tagged by the state will need to go to star stations.
but the info im getting is still not complete.

(soap box)
here is what i see the problem is with the state.
even though a car in question has different aftermarket parts it can pass emissions legally and fine, but they dont get to pass just because of visual or different parts installed or missing parts that originally came on the car.

...but

a car with parts that have a carb sticker on it will be just fine. the last time i saw an aftermarket intake with a carb sticker compared to a non sticker intake, they both still does the same thing.
(carb sticker = manufacturer of a particular brand paid a butt load of money to have the state say its ok to use that product on the streets in that state)

just to get to the point, the state wants money. the environment issue is just the front page, state revenue is the back page and no one likes to read the pages.

sorry got off topic.
not like this rant will ever do anything.
back to topic....

 

In California, you are required to pass the smog check or you can not register your vehicle to be driven on the street. If you say the vehicle does not run then you can opt to register as "non-op" (non operational). The price for this registration is significantly less, but it does not give you a valid plate sticker nor does it allow you to legally operate the car on the streets.
Basically, you get to keep your car in the garage while you fix it THEN you have to file for regular registration with proper smog check paperwork.

 

from what i found out, thats not correct.

they get fined.
sometimes they also go to extra classes as punishment.

the first time is about $500

they usually get like 3 chances. before their license is revoked.

a star tech is rumored to be fined around $1500 for the first incident.

the procedure with how they are getting caught is difficult to follow.
but one thing is sure in every case, the tech gets cocky or people who they help share the info to people they dont even know which leads to undercover inspectors.

another method they use to track is the pass and fail rate a tech has.

 

and i heard that getting it back on the road again after that is extra work plus money on your side.

 

You are correct!
Good find.
I was reading up on the STAR program and I misread what these techs were saying.
Basically, the shady techs are having a really hard time keeping their career if they get a tarnished record. Bad star score and finding work is really tough.

 

thanks! im glad i was able to help.

here is a video i found which supports the revenue theory.
this is a guy who is a smog tech. he claims the state is just basically looking for more revenue. helping clear up the air is no longer california's first objective.



also read his comments and the people who commented after watching it, very informative.