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Old Jun 22, 2013 | 04:44 PM
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Ok I just swapped a b16a into my 91 si and I just finnished putting it in and when I hooked up the battery and turned the key and the starter does nothing at all...I can here the relay under the dash clicking and the one under the hood clicking but the starter doesn't make a sound.I even tryed jumping the starter and nothing...the starter worked in the eg it came out of and the starter in the ef worked before I pulled the engine...someone tell me something
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Old Jun 23, 2013 | 02:07 PM
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http://troubleshootmyvehicle.com/hon...tarter-motor-1
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Old Jul 2, 2013 | 05:36 PM
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Thanks thats actually pretty helpful
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Old Jul 4, 2013 | 04:28 PM
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That site was really helpfull but I still cant figure it out...I had the starter tested and its fine..I tested the relay and its fine I even tried putting a direct ground from the starter to the body thinking it was a ground problem and I still have nothing some one please help lol im really getting anxious to drive this thing and work out the kinks but I cant get it running to do that
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Old Jul 4, 2013 | 09:24 PM
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Did you check the battery? What is the voltage? Do you have another battery to try?

Put 12v directly to the main starter power hookup and to the solenoid prong. If it doesnt work either your starter doesnt work or your battery is dead.
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Old Jul 4, 2013 | 11:29 PM
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Check your grounds and don't even say you did already.
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Old Jul 5, 2013 | 03:27 PM
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Is the rubber bumper for the clutch start switch there and intact? Looks just like the rubber stop for the brake light switch but there is also one for the clutch start switch. I had one crumble and fall out and had me go crazy for a couple of hours trying to figure out why my starter wouldn't work until I saw the rubber pieces in the floorboard.
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Old Jul 5, 2013 | 03:33 PM
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Have you check the distributor cap and rotor?

Spark plug wire order correct?
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Old Jul 5, 2013 | 07:34 PM
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I have two batteries I tried them both and I used a jump box and still nothing..and I disconected the saftey switch on the clutch and looped it so I could use a remote starter switch.and the dizzy and cap and rotor are new cuz when I got it it had a missfire issue and I repkaced them but thats another storry......I know its gotta be a ground issue. How many grounds do I need cuz I have one off the valve cover and I put one from the starter to the boddy thinging it would help but still nothing.... do I need a tranny ground and maybe another?
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Old Jul 5, 2013 | 07:39 PM
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Yeah there should be a tranny ground and the ground on the thermo housing.
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Old Jul 5, 2013 | 07:42 PM
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Ok ill check them in the am and get back to you thanks
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Old Jul 6, 2013 | 01:56 AM
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Default Re: b16 swapped 91 si wont start

Originally Posted by EFvtec Yo!
Yeah there should be a tranny ground and the ground on the thermo housing.
everytime.. got Me two three times and I even knew better. lol. easy check... multimeter to starter chassis, other to the car (common ground) then tranny to your neg on the battery. bet money you miss one of those. in diode check btw.

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Old Jul 6, 2013 | 10:25 PM
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everytime.. got Me two three times and I even knew better. lol. easy check... multimeter to starter chassis, other to the car (common ground) then tranny to your neg on the battery. bet money you miss one of those. in diode check btw.

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im betting its the thermostat ground. have you tried keying on and running a hot wire to the starter signal wire?
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Old Jul 6, 2013 | 11:11 PM
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starter only has two leads, 12vdc to the battery and signal wire from the ignition switch. the return is directly grounded via the starter chassis to the transmission housing... the transmission gets a separate ground the the car chassis... completing the circuit. you didn't ground the tranny....
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Old Jul 6, 2013 | 11:22 PM
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2minute check... put your multimeter on diode check.... either lead onto any part of the transmission housing, the other lead to your starter chassis... you will hear a beep. now connect the lead to your starter chassis and the neg on your battery. 99% sure you won't hear anything... if so.... there is a bolt on top of transmission that should have a wire on it, that wire should be attached to the passenger side wheel well. under the or near the tranny mount.
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Old Jul 7, 2013 | 12:04 AM
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Just wire in a ground from negative side of battery straight to your transmission.
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Old Jul 7, 2013 | 12:40 AM
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Default Re: b16 swapped 91 si wont start

why? the ground is already there in a much less noticeable position... he just didn't connect it.
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Old Jul 7, 2013 | 05:05 AM
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Ya it was the ground on the thermostat Iit already one on there soo just for the hell of it a ran another one on top of it and it fired right up....so good call clay
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Old Jul 7, 2013 | 06:08 AM
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thermo ground Is the harness main zero reference ground... the same ground your ecu grounds to. shouldn't have kept your starter from turning.... :/ good job getting done.
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Old Jul 12, 2013 | 03:42 PM
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