When and whats the deal with this lil guy?

 

http://www.full-race.com/store/turbo...t-turbo-1.html

 

I've been running this turbo since Fall Nats.. Went my personal best MPH on my second pass (172mph) with it. Spools a lot faster then my S400sx 71mm with the 83mm turbine wheel.

 

I have the S400sx71mm and I am sick of it!

I trapped 148 and cannot go over. Jenna trapped 152 in my car I can't get it to do it again!

 

I did nothing but go faster when i switched off that turd to the lil ole 6766, I love borg turbos, but that 71mm...oyy.

PS: Are they really going to maintain this $1000 gap between the 67 and 72mm units??

 

I would not buy that $2,200 for, I tested the borg 67mm turbo its smaller than my PTE6785 and that thing is so laggy , its junk you dont even need boost controler just a high and low switch for boost. Not to mention the junk bearing that come stock are 270* bearing ate them right up! 3 runs and shaft blew up, they said i need a -6 line...lol

 

im sure its laggy if it went up in 3 passes ... it more then likely had issues before you put it on lol... as far as -6 line I have never heard anyone at Borg Warner recommend that. If your went up in 3 passes your doing something wrong... more then likely trying to run too much boost knowing you... you really want to start a borg vs precision which turbo takes a crap sooner contest?
As far as the good ole 372 I trapped 167 last year with one, they are older technology then all the new stuff that BorgWarner offers ... The new 72mm is a great deal for 2200.00 a lot of other turbos you would have to add 1000 bucks to that price tag, and with it being cast wheel drop a 100 pounds off at most events on east coast...

 

Why do you even reply to this guy?...

 

I talked to them they said to run a -6 line cause bla bla bla....they didnt want cover it. Im not running too much boost, the turbo only makes 40-35lbs, if i buy a turbo i expect to run that without having any issues after a few passes. I went 9.0@165 on the 2nd hit with the turbo, don't get me wrong it works, but for how long? The old s372 lasted me for years, I also went 168 with the old s372, used the same oil line when i was using the 67mm. The turbo only had a few passes it total.

 

I was fortunate enough to test this turbo last year as well. I have the cast version.

At fall nationals, ran consistent 9.1@168 and at WCF ran multiple 171+ mph with this turbo.

I can't wait to give it another shot with the new car.

Before this turbo, I ran the BW s400 67mm FMW. Had nothing but success that turbo.

For that price it's a bargain!

I'm pretty sure Cole Marmon from Speed Factory is on this turbo as well.

 

Paul were you running a -4 line and going 35-40lbs each pass on the 67mm last year?

Pretty sure cole was running that turbo at vegas!

 

What about the Forced Inductions version which is $500 cheaper and supposedly makes more power.

 

I inquired about the Forced Induction version...emailed them and tried to call but no bueno. Didnot get any response...

 

this turbo is 100% borgwarner... engineered in their lab. the forced inductions version uses one of the mystery compressor wheels, machined and assembled by them (completely different) and does not use the same 72mm compressor or 87mm turbine wheel

looking forward to seeing the new car out this year paul!

something does not make sense here - that s372 that lasted you years is the same turbo as the S400 67, only difference is compressor wheel... same bearing housing, same thrust surface, same turbine wheel and shaft... also i dont know who you spoke with but I recommend -4AN or -6AN oil feed line with a restrictor. i would never recommend -6 feed line without restrictor. If you dont want to use a restrictor use -3AN feed line. technically Its best to use larger dia so the oil gets to the turbo faster upon startup but tons of people use -3 with no problems.. if you still have the 372 i can help you fix the 67 or if you need replacement parts i can help with that too..

agreed

 

I agree with Geoff .. you said how durable your 372 was but the 67mm went up in 3 passes .. doesn't matter you will never admit what hurt it... I blame the user .... I have run more of these same turbo's then I can count on everything from cobalts, honda's mustangs etc... they are reliable great bang for the buck... arod you guys break more **** then anyone .. clutches motors , say it aint so.... it doesn't matter you will have some reply , but just remember to read what you say cause you contradict your self a lot.... and once again nobody from borgwarner told you to run a -6 ... I have run -3 and -4 never had any issues , unless I had foreign object damage...

 

Yeah that's what I said it's the F-I version which makes more power due to "mystery compressor wheel" and is available with a 92mm turbine. :-P

 

Im not trying to hide anything ...lol i sent the pictures to Geoff to look at what happend to the turbo. I even showed him the log with oil pressure, the turbo had a defect for it to blow in 3 passes. I lost an event cause of it, you would be mad also. I dont break as much **** comapred to the rest of the class that for sure!

 

alberto obviously you burned up the bearings in your 67mm s400, while Im not sure what discussing your 67mm turbo will solve (i tried my best to help you out, even though the turbo was not purchased from here) and I do not agree with your assessment the turbo was defective.. take a look at your photo, you can clearly see there was damage due to lack of oil OR oil contamination since the damage is clearly seen on both bearing surfaces. if there was a manufacturing defect then you would typically damage only one of the bearings. Failures from too much boost would show up in the thrust surface. Failure due to lack of oil OR oil contaminints that is where both bearings can not survive (metal or dirt in the oil feed line, no oil for a while upon engine startup, lots of possibilities can contribute to bearing damage)

regardless it should be easy to replace the bearings, and the turbine shaft, and be back up and running. thats a big benefit of the BW s400, ultra simple and easy to overhaul

 

Whats the lbs/min on this particular model?

 

What size is the oil feed fitting.. That hole is huge im having no luck with trying to find it... Thanks

 

1/4 NPT..

 

Thanks, ill try that. What feed line size beacuse im hearing people say -6 an... I plan on using just a -4 no restrictor..

 

I've only ever used a -4 and no restrictor with my BW turbos.

 

Same here and I have never had any issues.

 

I've always used -3 feeds with Borg Warner's and no issues yet.