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Old Jun 5, 2013 | 06:24 AM
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Default wtf is going on here h22a jdm mfg 2/97

just bought a h22a to throw in a 97 hatch. anyways.

So i ordered a obd1 h22a and paid 808 for it. Came from ALN jdm motors.

Anyways, so i unwrap the pallet and did a quick 15 minute inspection on my lunch break yesterday and it is stamped 02/97, so i instantly think, OBD2. the distributor bolts appear to never have been even touched since new and it is a 2 plug obd1 dist. There is no crank sensor (i say that because i see no small harness from near the crank pulley. I do see a evap purge solenoid on top of the IM.

This is just weird. I am going to post pics of this damn engine so maybe you guys can help me confirm what the hell is going on.
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Old Jun 5, 2013 | 04:36 PM
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ALN Jdm motors is a good place to buy from. I bought my euro-r swap from Alex from aln motors and he was super helpful and knowledgeable. Please post up some pics of the engine so we can help you address your concerns a bit better. I'm thinking maybe they sent you the wrong engine.

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Old Jun 5, 2013 | 11:00 PM
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The crank positioning sensor on your engine is located in the distributor. If you really want to have it work, you need to source a oil pump from a usdm h22a4. Go buy a new distributor anyways, i think you have too, and it would be easier to have usdm plugs imo. Anyhow hope this helps.
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 05:52 AM
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how the hell does a oil pump have anything to do with it.

i will convert it to obd1 and i have done h swaps tons of times so i am not concerned about any swap info.. I just wanted to share this with you guys..will post pics
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 06:51 AM
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I think that JDM engines can span quite a bit later as obd1, I know that the one I built my current H23 from was stamped with 96 on the block and head, but is/ was a 50 mm main obd1 engine.

I am curious as to is the mains are 50 or 55 on the engine you just got.
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by sleepyaccord96
how the hell does a oil pump have anything to do with it.

i will convert it to obd1 and i have done h swaps tons of times so i am not concerned about any swap info.. I just wanted to share this with you guys..will post pics
Because the crank sensor is located in the oil pump on usdm obd2, easy swap. So installing a h22a4 oil pump on your engine will allow you to have a working CPS on your jdm block. If you have done many H swaps you should have known where it was located already..... including why I mentioned a oil pump...... Just answering you Q of "wheres my crank sensor?"... Your welcome..
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 01:00 PM
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Jdm engines can be obd1 as long as they are 1998 or before. Also, the 1997 and 1998 engien can be 50mm mains or 55 mm mains depending on where the car was sold in, if it was jdm pre 1998 then it will be 50mm, if its above 98 then it will be 55mm. If it 1997 USDM it will be 50mm and 98 usdm will be 55mm. The change was made in the mid 1997 year to correct the rod knock h22 are famous for.
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Old Jun 7, 2013 | 12:16 PM
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Because the crank sensor is located in the oil pump on usdm obd2, easy swap. So installing a h22a4 oil pump on your engine will allow you to have a working CPS on your jdm block. If you have done many H swaps you should have known where it was located already..... including why I mentioned a oil pump...... Just answering you Q of "wheres my crank sensor?"... Your welcome..
irrelevant...

I said i DO NOT see a crank sensor, i ALWAYS order obd1 engines usdm or jdm hence they never have crank sensors...

The car it is going in is a 97 which is obd2. I am doing the obd1 harness and obd1 ecu so crank sensor has no importance...

I am not changing the oil pump. No need to.

I still haven't inspected it again for a close look. obd1 is always the way to go.

I have done f20b and h23a bluetop swaps but just haven't had any red flags raise because it wasn't a conversion just a engine replacement which is not brain work. I DID question this engine because it is stamped 97 and IS OBD1 thats what got me wondering.
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Old Jun 7, 2013 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by sleepyaccord96
irrelevant...

I said i DO NOT see a crank sensor, i ALWAYS order obd1 engines usdm or jdm hence they never have crank sensors...

The car it is going in is a 97 which is obd2. I am doing the obd1 harness and obd1 ecu so crank sensor has no importance...

I am not changing the oil pump. No need to.

I still haven't inspected it again for a close look. obd1 is always the way to go.

I have done f20b and h23a bluetop swaps but just haven't had any red flags raise because it wasn't a conversion just a engine replacement which is not brain work. I DID question this engine because it is stamped 97 and IS OBD1 thats what got me wondering.
Irrelevant??? You said you dont see the sensor, its because you cant see it just by looking at the outside.... and yes every engine does come with a CPS regardless of jdm, usdm, edm, obd0, obd1, obd2...... They all come with one...

All I did was tell you where its located, and what part " oil pump/sensor" you will need to get if you wanted to have a working one whether you intended on using it or not. That was all good information I shared with you. Why do you get so defensive?

As far as obd1 is the way to go... You can convert any obd2 block into a obd1, only difference are emissions junk and wire connectors.

You posted a thread asking for help, I try to help you with actual useful info and your a douche for no reason why?...
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