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Old May 28, 2013 | 11:29 AM
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Default 1995 prelude F22 to 2001 f20b swap ...dizzy question....

So the swap is done.......anyways...my friend kept old dizzy in...and dizzy from f20b in trunk... Why? What's the benefits of keepin old one? And why not put new one? Was thinking of gettin new cap n rotor.. Which dizzy should I use ??? N what would I need to do the swap???
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Old May 28, 2013 | 01:14 PM
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Default Re: 1995 prelude F22 to 2001 f20b swap ...dizzy question....

I'm not a 100 percent about the f series. But people keep or buy the obd1 dizzys because there external coil, not Internal coil. Basicaly it just gives better more consistant spark.
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Old May 28, 2013 | 03:33 PM
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Default Re: 1995 prelude F22 to 2001 f20b swap ...dizzy question....

get your self an obd1 h23a/1 or h22a/1 dizzy. i used my old dizzy from my h23a1 and it works perfect.
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Old May 28, 2013 | 06:30 PM
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External coil makes sense... Thanks guys
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Old May 28, 2013 | 08:56 PM
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Default Re: 1995 prelude F22 to 2001 f20b swap ...dizzy question....

whats the difference between the obd1 dizzy from the f22 and the one from the h22a? im still probably gonna get the h22a one becuz its more common
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Old May 28, 2013 | 11:02 PM
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Default Re: 1995 prelude F22 to 2001 f20b swap ...dizzy question....

Originally Posted by logicali
whats the difference between the obd1 dizzy from the f22 and the one from the h22a? im still probably gonna get the h22a one becuz its more common
I know H series, the H22a is the jdm version and come with a internal coil same as the usdm obd2's. You want a usdm h22a1 dizzy off 94-96 vtec model, or the harder to find 93'SI v-tec. The h22a1 wasnt available in 92, and after 93 they dropped the SI. Then gave it a few cosmetic "upgrades", and it became the vtec model. Those have the external coil you want.
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Old May 29, 2013 | 02:49 AM
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I know H series, the H22a is the jdm version and come with a internal coil same as the usdm obd2's. You want a usdm h22a1 dizzy off 94-96 vtec model, or the harder to find 93'SI v-tec. The h22a1 wasnt available in 92, and after 93 they dropped the SI. Then gave it a few cosmetic "upgrades", and it became the vtec model. Those have the external coil you want.

wrong i have a 94 si...

you can use any obd1 h23/h22 dizzy. the f20b is an obd2 while your 95 is an obd1 car. hence the reason why people use an obd1 dizzy from an h22/h23 when swapping into an obd1 prelude. now how do i know this, i swapped the f20b into my 94 si.

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Old May 29, 2013 | 01:50 PM
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Default Re: 1995 prelude F22 to 2001 f20b swap ...dizzy question....

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wrong i have a 94 si...

you can use any obd1 h23/h22 dizzy. the f20b is an obd2 while your 95 is an obd1 car. hence the reason why people use an obd1 dizzy from an h22/h23 when swapping into an obd1 prelude. now how do i know this, i swapped the f20b into my 94 si.
Thanks for trying to call me out... but im sorry your "wrong".... They still made SI cars but not with a h22a1 vtec engine. The SI's only came with a h23a1 non-vtec from 94+. My lude is the 94' Vtec model. If it had been made one year earlier it would have had SI badges. But it doesnt.... because they dropped the SI on the H-series line. They also gave the cars some new features on the 94 vtec model, so it is one trim level above your SI. The vtec model are the "type-s" of the 4th gens. Im also not positive if all obd1 dizzys are external coil either...

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Old May 29, 2013 | 04:29 PM
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Default Re: 1995 prelude F22 to 2001 f20b swap ...dizzy question....

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Thanks for trying to call me out... but im sorry your "wrong".... They still made SI cars but not with a h22a1 vtec engine. The SI's only came with a h23a1 non-vtec from 94+. My lude is the 94' Vtec model. If it had been made one year earlier it would have had SI badges. But it doesnt.... because they dropped the SI on the H-series line. They also gave the cars some new features on the 94 vtec model, so it is one trim level above your SI. The vtec model are the "type-s" of the 4th gens. Im also not positive if all obd1 dizzys are external coil either...

your statement about me being wrong is completely irrelevant. you said they DROPPED the si model after 93 which isnt true. all si's came with the h23a1, the vtec, which is a different model as you said came with the h22a/a1. and im not completely sure about the SI badge on a prelude because honestly ive never seen one and any 4th gen unless the owner put it on there them selves. you may not be completely wrong, but you just might want to clarify or go farther into detail when you make a statement. theyve been off a little lately.
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Old May 29, 2013 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by tkarner03
your statement about me being wrong is completely irrelevant. you said they DROPPED the si model after 93 which isnt true. all si's came with the h23a1, the vtec, which is a different model as you said came with the h22a/a1. and im not completely sure about the SI badge on a prelude because honestly ive never seen one and any 4th gen unless the owner put it on there them selves. you may not be completely wrong, but you just might want to clarify or go farther into detail when you make a statement. theyve been off a little lately.
Calm down turbo... Yes i said instead of calling them the "SI Vtec" they "dropped" the SI from the NAME and gave it a different bumper, bigger calipers, bigger rotors, different blinkers and other upgrades. I never once said they dropped the SI "model", your putting words in my mouth. By the way yes they did put badges/stickers to identify the SI from the standard base model. To argue that is just dumb.... Just because you havent seen them, doesnt mean there not there. Whats your problem? I didnt need to clarify anymore, i didnt say anything incorrect...
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Old May 29, 2013 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Sparksman
I know H series, the H22a is the jdm version and come with a internal coil same as the usdm obd2's. You want a usdm h22a1 dizzy off 94-96 vtec model, or the harder to find 93'SI v-tec. The h22a1 wasnt available in 92, and after 93 they dropped the SI. Then gave it a few cosmetic "upgrades", and it became the vtec model. Those have the external coil you want.

come again?

like i said im not completely sure about the badges nor do i care if there on there or not.
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Old May 29, 2013 | 06:54 PM
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Default Re: 1995 prelude F22 to 2001 f20b swap ...dizzy question....

Originally Posted by tkarner03
come again?

like i said im not completely sure about the badges nor do i care if there on there or not.
Your like Fox News... You take a sentence out of context and start to imagine theres a controversy when theres really not.. All i was doing was referring him to prelude chassis as far as which ones came with the h22a1. Nothing more, nothing less. Im not a noob like yourself, eveyone knows SI's were made after 93... You came at me about it like i didnt know. Also If you dont care about a point YOU brought up against me.. Why say anything about it to begin with??? Why dont you just go play in traffic.
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Old May 30, 2013 | 02:48 AM
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a noob? ive been a member since 08 and have had multiple hondas, good one though.
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Old May 30, 2013 | 03:24 AM
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OP, the f20b is obd2 which is why you can't use that distributor..unless you convert to obd2 which normally isn't something that people do. More specifically you just need the td61u distributor

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after 93 they dropped the SI.
I'm not sure what that is supposed to mean. They didn't drop the SI after '93.
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Old May 30, 2013 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by holmesnmanny
OP, the f20b is obd2 which is why you can't use that distributor..unless you convert to obd2 which normally isn't something that people do. More specifically you just need the td61u distributor



I'm not sure what that is supposed to mean. They didn't drop the SI after '93.
Do you guys not read??? holly **** in the same sentence i said look for the "93 SI vtec" to find a h22a1. After 93 they "dropped" the SI from the list of trim levels of which cars would receive a H-series engine. I dont know how any clearer to state that..... Read my whole sentence not just the half the nit-wit quoted me saying.... As far as talking about H series engines they stopped putting them in SI's after 93, hence the dropped it from the h-series line. damn people.... I was ever ONLY ever talking about H-series chassis.... Who gives a F*ck about 94+ SI's anyhow they have a shitty trim level and have even worse engines.... For the purpose of helping the op looking for the H22a1 external coil dizzy, i was only referencing h-series ludes. I was talking about how they changed from Si models into vtec models. This is ridiculous i have to repeat myself so many times...
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Old May 30, 2013 | 11:16 AM
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^ dude i am sorry to butt in but what you are saying doesn't make sense, it may to you but not to me and looks like a few others..

btw, why does it matter what trim was available in what year? why? why does it make a difference? it does not.


92 95 preludes are obd1
96 is obd2

h22a1 came in 93 to 96 preludes labeled as Si VTEC or just VTEC model.

so all bullshit aside since everyone wants to fight over what is printed on the title to the vehicle. (By the way S and SI never had a badge on the trunk that even SAID S or SI)

OP needs a OBD1 Dist from a h22a1 OR a h23a1


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Old May 30, 2013 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by sleepyaccord96
^ dude i am sorry to butt in but what you are saying doesn't make sense, it may to you but not to me and looks like a few others..

btw, why does it matter what trim was available in what year? why? why does it make a difference? it does not.


92 95 preludes are obd1
96 is obd2

h22a1 came in 93 to 96 preludes labeled as Si VTEC or just VTEC model.

so all bullshit aside since everyone wants to fight over what is printed on the title to the vehicle. (By the way S and SI never had a badge on the trunk that even SAID S or SI)

OP needs a OBD1 Dist from a h22a1 OR a h23a1


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^^^ this is all i was trying to say.... and in 94 the stopped calling them "SI vtecs" Then that douche bag is going out of his way to try to say im wrong or make me look like a fool. He's just butt hurt at me for telling him to go cut his wrists and die the other day... I was just trying to help the OP by saying which ones came vtec. I dont understand how what im saying doesnt make sense? Also they did have stickers on the SI's I know this for a fact. Maybe not on the trunk but on the doors some had huge oem SI stickers. Same place it says vtec on the vtec models.
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Old May 31, 2013 | 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Sparksman
Do you guys not read??? holly **** in the same sentence i said look for the "93 SI vtec" to find a h22a1. After 93 they "dropped" the SI from the list of trim levels of which cars would receive a H-series engine. I dont know how any clearer to state that..... Read my whole sentence not just the half the nit-wit quoted me saying.... As far as talking about H series engines they stopped putting them in SI's after 93, hence the dropped it from the h-series line. damn people.... I was ever ONLY ever talking about H-series chassis.... Who gives a F*ck about 94+ SI's anyhow they have a shitty trim level and have even worse engines.... For the purpose of helping the op looking for the H22a1 external coil dizzy, i was only referencing h-series ludes. I was talking about how they changed from Si models into vtec models. This is ridiculous i have to repeat myself so many times...

so the h23 isn't considered part of the h series family? dude you are a complete dumbass. maybe you should go back to not posting anything because you obviously don't know what your talking about. seriously, nothing you say is at all true. just stop.
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Old May 31, 2013 | 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Sparksman
After 93 they "dropped" the SI from the list of trim levels of which cars would receive a H-series engine
This is wrong too. The SI has the h23a1 engine, which is part of the H series of engines that Honda made even after '93.

Try harder next time.
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Old May 31, 2013 | 05:06 AM
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h22a, h22a1, h22a4, h22a7, h23a bluetop, h23a black top non vtec, h23a1 usdm non vtec, these are mostly all of the h series engines...yes i am sure i am missing some. but any engine code starting with H in the honda family IS a h series.

OP needs a h23a1 or a h22a1 usdm obd1 Dist.

BTW, i cannot recall seeing ANY SI stickers or an SI emblem on 92 96 prelude SI's...

They all said "prelude" on the trunk in cursive. the vtec models had a small sticker that went below the prelude emblem that was quite small and said dohc VTEC.

im out of this thread.
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Old May 31, 2013 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by holmesnmanny
This is wrong too. The SI has the h23a1 engine, which is part of the H series of engines that Honda made even after '93.

Try harder next time.

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Old May 31, 2013 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by holmesnmanny
This is wrong too. The SI has the h23a1 engine, which is part of the H series of engines that Honda made even after '93.

Try harder next time.
Ok I'l admit when Im wrong. I see now where the confusion is, I should have put vtec in place of "h series". Yes there were H series in the later SI's. I was only referring to the vtec only models. My point was correct, but what I ended up typing was incorrect. That was kind of a big typo, so sorry. Im not on here to cause problems, this got blown way out of proportion for no reason.
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