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Old May 24, 2013 | 05:30 PM
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This is my 1996 Honda prelude si. I've been working on it over the past 10years and it seems no one likes it at all. I've put on the very best parts I could find and installed by me. I am a electronics technician part time and a cnc machinist full time. Many parts I custom fabricated myself and other were purchased from reputable dealers like summit racing. It has just to name a few things a large walbro fuel pump, all braided SST lines, Aem rail,1000cc Id injectors, fuel lab components, it runs on pump gas or e85 and uses a flex fuel sensor made by zetronix wired to my s300 hondata. It also has tsw wheels w/ nitto rubber. Ppg Perez paint. Aem gauges include egt, AFR, oil pressure, trans temp, coolant temp, tru boost gauges all wired fror data logging also. Tial wastegate and bov with tig welded piping. It has all alpine audio and Nav (12" type r sub, class d amp and large screen head unit) mishimoto trans cooler w/fan, mishimoto rad and fan. It also has a explicit motorsports traction bar setup and solid motor mounts. The is head work that is port matched with lightened adj cam gears. Unorthodox pulleys (except the crank is stock pulley) t3t4 turbonetics turbo, blue ridge ramhorn Mani, 3" exhaust with a electronic cutout to run open at a flip of a switch. Borla muffler no cat. MSD digital ingition, msd cap rotor, taylor 10.5 wires. There is many more parts to list but these are some of my favorite additions. Honestly I don't know why but most people really dislike this car, why do you not like it ?[IMG][/IMG]

[IMG][/IMG] I got 42,000 miles on it and 450 HP mild street tune can max at 600. All parts support 1000hp but lacking a few pieces to get up that far in hp

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Old May 24, 2013 | 05:52 PM
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Put the body back to stock, stock lights, and some Volk/BBS/Work wheels, or even a copy thereof and there you go. Instant honda-tech repsect.

Yes, that means it will like every other one....but it is what it is. LOL.
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Old May 24, 2013 | 06:09 PM
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what he said
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Old May 24, 2013 | 06:10 PM
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the body kit looks horrible the rims r ugly and to big. THE WING IS JUST HIDEOUS AND THE rear tail lights r gay
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Old May 24, 2013 | 06:16 PM
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good news: the car is dope
bad news: it took you 10 years to make a car 10 years ago dope

i like the 1st pic, makes it look like an extreme car show killing relic, like a blast from the past. hen i started driving in 2001 this wulda got u more pu$$y and trophies had di(k jockers then you could ever imagine!!!!
it's like fast and furious 10... the lost story


to answer your question though... pople don't like it cus they band wagon ish. 10 years ago, THIS WAS FU(K3N DOPE!!! i was simple back then, rims, suspension, motor, lip kit, i've only had 2 cars with body kits and 1 was a show car/vis racing used mirage evo cf hood image, the blue car. 1 fc3s rxy with a lip kit and a dozen other cvics, accord, crx, jetta, rx7s, ect without kits. remember the other year, the hype was 0 offset wheels and oem body? then trying to rust out ish, stickered lips, roof racks for no dam reason. then super neg camber. now its not to bad, the trend has started getting back to basics, nice and clean, good fitment, more corrected cambers, more fully functional cars.
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Old May 24, 2013 | 06:36 PM
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Oh yea this thing got me tons of pu$$y in the day. Girls loved it guys hated it. Where I come from all there is jacked up 4x4s (not hatin, i also have a cj7 1976 on 36" mudders as my daily driver) no imports in my town so I built a car that was truly in my eyes a tuner car. Seems no one these days on the net likes cars like this. I still love the car and turn wrenchs on it every single day. I will keep it for my kid someday soon I imagine. I just wondered why since I don't see other import cars all souped up driving around my streets and there designs, I really built how I wanted it with no influence from others. Any women on h-t? Why do you like it? I remember the zero offset camber stuff, my bud had a accord like that and I hated it! Funny how taste changes so quickly. If I could do it again I would build it the same only change is I would use a r34 style front bumper...thanks for the input I appreciate the honesty.

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Old May 24, 2013 | 08:36 PM
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It's a pretty sweet car, body doesn't look good thou.
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Old May 24, 2013 | 10:57 PM
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don't think the girls on here would go for it either. depending on how old you are and from what you say, u may be near a larger town that has a historical threshold to original tuner cars. street racing started before the muscle car era, the muscle car era in fact was the influence of street racing, american grafitti is a great movie to check out, thats the big spawn of "tuner cars". a REAL tuner car is performance based, thus the term "tuner" rather then trailer queen. my uncle recently built a 89 chevelle ss clone, candy apple red, rally stripes, ghost flames in the stripes on the hood, black tweed interior, full air bags and huge meats on the back for a TUNED 393 stroker with aluminum heads a fat cam and ported 5 barrel. he hits the gas and doesnt get traction until midway through 3rd gear. it's been his baby, an $8,000 paint job and he never has a lot of money, he worked on motorcycles, this car was years of side work after the bills were paid. he hardly drove it for health reasons, ended up pulling the motor for a crate 350 (wtf right?). the motor he build was to haul *** not sunday cruise, it was ruining itself being started a few times a week and staying in the back. the point of that is, he kept it basic, it's a nice car. the ghost flames are just in the rally stripes and u see them at an angle. cany apple red paint. its subtle. steelies with beauty rings and the hub covers of the era. the air bags are dope but provide a dumped smooth ride. the car is noticable, memorable, but not overdone. no crazy paint or body work. the tweed interior is tastefull and functional. the car now with the 350 runs and drives instead of suffering. it still runs 411 posi which is high, its old school, you cant afford a more powerful engine, u switch your rear end to maximize the acceleration. top end suffers horribly but ur the ish from stop light to stop light until someone does the same and has the motor work.

your prelude is honestly dope, i still like it, i understand the time, money and work that went into it. i'd never own it but again, i like it. the issue is, as its stored... its not functional. it has to be higher for the area you live in, and because of the body kit, now it makes the wheel gap space look large. it's a magnet for thieves lookin to smash and grab
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Old May 25, 2013 | 07:39 AM
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Very nicely put. Its is a magnet for thieves. It is a track/street car and not a show car. I attend one fathers day show a year then any events it goes to is a drag or autocross event. It has a paint chip here and there if u look real close and it gets started on the regular. I get scared someone will mess with it all the time. I accually had to install cameras around my home hooked to net so I can monitor my home. No one has ever tried to steal anything but I want to be prepared if so. Not many people know where it is kept at I call it the "bat cave" and no one knows the better but if someone sees me leaving with it its only a matter of time till they put two and two together. Its is a street/race/pleasure car and requires special skills to drive around here. The streets here really are fairly nice paved roads it the pulling into p-lots and crossing a few train tracks that can be problems for someone but I've learned to deal with it. I did not want air bags because like i said it is a race car not a show car. I geared the build torwards performance and not show it just ended up looking like a show car, its really made to be driven and has never been taken anywhere on a trailer

I really don't want to say to much about it, but did now. At first glance I just wanta know why you don't like it?

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Old May 25, 2013 | 09:39 AM
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You geared it towards performance? You may want to do some research on what that constitutes.

If you were looking to produce a show car from the 90's era, you succeeded with flying colors. But, with the narrow, heavy wheels on mediocre tires you're going to lack a lot of potential grip. Your suspension also looks to be stock, which would improve the car's performance dramatically by upgrading. You also have a body kit on there that actually decreases its aerodynamic performance, adds weight, and doesn't even fit all that great. That rear spoiler is not going to perform well at all, given its design, location, and angle of deflection. The sticker collection, tail lights, hose coverings, and head lights do nothing in the way of providing any performance gains. To be honest, it looks more like something built off of an AutoZone parts catalog... more so then something that was built with any form of part research.
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Old May 25, 2013 | 10:51 AM
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On paper this is a sick car man. Nice build. I bet this thing is a blast to drive.

And then you see it. To me personally, its like taking the best looking woman you could find and covering her face in clown make-up.
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Old May 25, 2013 | 12:09 PM
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i personally grew out of the body kit phase, whit that said i think the car looks good! i see things i would have done different but anyone can look at any car and see something they don't like. im more into the stock look at least when it comes to body pieces. but hey what do i know im getting flamed for driving a purple civic lol.
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Old May 25, 2013 | 12:18 PM
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Just because you have lots of $$$ in it means nothing...

Having $$$ without any taste and you end up with what you have: a hot mess of a fun house on wheels most would politely call an ugly car.

Take the winchester house for example...


Yep, she thought it was a dope mansion, but no, it reality, it's a rediculous fun house people are willing to pay $$$ just to look at it and laugh.




It's like rich people who buy expensive ugly clothes, rappers with ridiculously ugly "bling" jewelery, money does not by class/good taste/or good fashion sense.

If that's your true fashion sense in cars, then, I'm very sorry you haven't cared enough to spend a minute and learn a damn thing over the 10 years you have been working on your car.
And quite clearly that shows through in your car, and for that, I don't like it.
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Old May 25, 2013 | 03:22 PM
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Under the hood it's all good

The body look's it stepped out the set of the Fast and the furious.
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Old May 25, 2013 | 04:01 PM
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450hp, capable of 600 on a stock internalled motor and a stock automatic transmission? hmmmm... sure..
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Old May 25, 2013 | 05:04 PM
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The body kit doesn't flow with the body of the car at all. And the fitment is pretty poor. It just overall detracts from the car and makes it look kinda cheap.

And I don't get it. You say it's all performance oriented, but you've got all this flashy extra un-needed stuff in the bay and you've got this big body kit and wing that do nothing for performance. And then you've also got these oversized wheels all these engine mods but still rocking the dinky little stock brakes?
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Old May 25, 2013 | 08:44 PM
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Come on bro, you didn't seriously post this wondering why people hate on it?

Listen, at the end of the day, it's your car and all that matters is that YOU like it.

...but come on. You aren't legitimately asking that question, right?
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Old May 25, 2013 | 11:08 PM
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here's a few really good comments in here considering what u said about its not a show car and a race car. you built what u wanted and all we have is opinions. the wheels for 1, suspension for 2, kit for 3, 450 hp claim is 4, stock brakes is 5, suspension brakes 6. we'll stop there, honestly this is not track prepped at all. i've done autocross over the past 10 years fairly often in my crx's, eg hatch and an eclipse gsx. cage, 15x8 wheels, 1" fender gap to top of tire, sway bars, cage, gutted interior with a bucket seat type of stuff, auto-x is NOT about big turbos and hp. it's about all motor or quick response induction, straightaways are few and far between. a 10 second honda isn't likely o have an amazing 60' or 1/8 mile time, boost lag, 3rd gear is where the time starts falling off. is this even a legit thread? i mean is it really even your car or has this all been a joke?
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Old May 26, 2013 | 02:55 AM
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If it's what you want then leave it.

If you want changes, as mentioned already stock body, find some nicer wheels. 17" are ok on a Prelude they're the kind if car that is hard to pull off the 15x8 look.
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Old May 26, 2013 | 03:53 AM
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As others may have said, the body kit and wing really detracts from the car, same with the rims IMO. But other then that, you have yourself a really good lude in my eyes(I'ma 5th gen owner/lover). Not knocking on anything you have done my man, but if that car had a stock exterior it would just pop right off to me. Then again, I am a bigger fan of the OEM look but to each their own, right.

And also, its just whenever I see a front bumper like that, on any car. It just makes me rage on the inside. Things look really well done though aside from a few slight fitment issues, no shortcuts taken to create a 'style' ride to roll with everyone else.
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Old May 26, 2013 | 05:58 AM
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The only thing what doesn't flow with the car is the wing. Everything else is cleanly done and on point. Who cares what others think.
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Old May 26, 2013 | 06:32 AM
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I think most of the problem people have with it is that when I first started the build I wanted things that made it look like a show car so i would catch the girls attension. As I built it more I wanted to go fast, I was tired if getting beat on straight lines. The car was fast in corners from the factory. Most of the pics its on jack stands and doesn't give a look at the correct wheel spacing. Thanks I appreciate that people are being honest and not just hating (constrictive critisim). I love the car just as it is, like i said, but I just wondered why west coaster's reasons why they don't like it. I get a some more pics. Thanks for the help h-t nation! Oh the internals on the motor are not stock. Most the work is in the head with skunk 2 cams, valves, retainers, port matched. The 450hp is safe but the 600 is most likely breaking stuff if I ran it hard at all. Once I feel it ready I'll juice it up a lil more. In my opinion of my car I think it is just a good looking race car. Its not some 900hp civic but I'm sure one day it'll safe to go above the 600hp as soon as I drop some more compression. The pisions now are not low enough because I installed them before it was boosted so I went lower compression but not low enough. I really wanted to supercharge it but the turbo was more practical and mades more power in my situation. That's just my opinion...

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Old May 26, 2013 | 06:42 AM
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I personally don't like the body kit/wing and don't see how that improves performance. These change a lot about the car.

But hey if you actually autocross it, its more of a race car than most cars on here.
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Old May 26, 2013 | 06:49 AM
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Dude,

IMO the setup looks good, i guess its a matter of choice, for me i like my car as sleeper as possible.

i have a question for u - WHAT POWER STEERING BRACKET U USING TO CLEAR THAT MANI, would love to learn. am going boosted H soon, and clearing the PS is a major issue now.

Hope u reply. Still she looks great, i would not have it but each ones choice.

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Old May 26, 2013 | 06:58 AM
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Well since I am a machinist I just shaved down a lil piece of the PS backet to accommodate it. The bolt hole that faces the center of engine needed .750 milled out and then everything fits nice with the explicit speed performance traction bar provides clearance of the 3" mandrel exhaust.

[IMG][/IMG][IMG][/IMG] may e this shows wheel spacing better

If you need the part machined or a part machined. if ya ship it to me I can mill it out and ship it back to ya quick. Let me know if you do need any help. And drag racing here is fast with lots of old quick muscle, autocross just is catching on here and is very slow here its on very restricted tracks like at a oval track that's been closed or large parking lots. Its very primitive to what most of yins get to go support or take part in.

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