.....if i were to get a set of mugen lowdown's, i can get other rates and heights from king, right?

I mean, if i want my lowdowns a little lower than what they come with, i can do that with optional mugen springs, right? And stiffer, in say 400F/ 600R, right?

What rates do they come with normally?

Ausmith, help me out here bro!

 

there is only ONE set of springs for the lowdowns. if j00 want to change springs j00 have to get the N-Zero dampers.

 

and the price goes thru the roof for a set of those

 

Black R,
the Lowdown is preassembled with spring rates specifically designed for the DC2R or EK9. I *don't* think you can request your own spring rates on that.

 

I had thought the same thing... but Ausmith had lower springs on his car with the lowdowns... it was VERY low and it was the official KING motorsports itr for a while...

I guess that answers my question then (till he responds)...

 

I was told by Scott at King Motorsports that the lowdowns are very good for track days including running in race events like Honda Challenge with the rates that they are at....Scott is the manager of King. They are running a similar set-up on their car in Grand-Am. Not sure on Rates!?

 

;

 

Mugen Lowdown.. got my eye on that..

 

and for spring rates, I hate to say this, but do a search.

I did one yesterday and in one of the old posts, someone listed the rates. let me know if you can't find it.

 

Do a search under my name. I started a thread a few months ago that has the stock and lowdown spring rates.

 

I have the lowdowns on my Type R and I have seen Ausmiths car in person when he was in ATL for the dyno day...his car was NOTICEABLY lower then mine.

 

That's what I'm saying... his **** was MAD LOW. I dunno what he changed before he sold the car... lemme see if I can find some pics, but that **** was LOW AS ****.

.....here's some pics of the atl meet:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=161069&page=2

i'll look for more later, but that car was LOW...


[Modified by Black R, 8:00 PM 10/23/2002]

 

I read:

240F
160-240 Prog. Rear spring rates

 

http://www.reddotmotorsports.com/~ja...%20far_JPG.htm

.....Looked low as hell to me.

 

Mugen Lowdowns = Overpriced Coil-Over Suspension.

For the money you can buy a set of Coil-Over System from other manufacturers that come pre-assembled and has height and ride adjustability. They look like an upgraded shock and lowering spring combination to me. I forgot to mention they're GOLD colored! Bling Blingin...

Len, who would rather save up a couple more hundred dollars and get a Zeal System.

 

that sounds like stock rates.

 

Your opinion that's fine but it has NOTHING to do with the question in this thread, why post anything at all?

 

Because KENNETH WILSON is my friend and I CARE about what he spends his money on because I want the best for him.

To be honest, your reply to my reply really has nothing to do with the thread neither.

 

Ken - I was under the impression that there were optional spring rates, not sure about free length. You might find a decent combination between the Civic and Integra springs.

As for the guy who said that the Low Down was overpriced bling bling..... I highly doubt you have driven a car equipped with the low down suspension and compared it to other strut/spring or coil over combos.

The valving on the Mugen set is absolutely perfect for the springs and the vehicle. You get a near stock ride quality on the street combined with rates and valving totally suitable for hard track driving.

I believe that my car (now Mugenmike's car) had the standard Mugen lowdown intended for the DC2.

The bottom line is that 99% of the people on this forum (myself included) don't have the mental capacity to understand and take advantage of a 16-way adjustable coil-over system. Most race cars don't use systems that are that complex.

I'm going to Reno next week to pick up a new Arrr and one of the first things I am going to do, after I get it home, is drive to Sullivan and get a set of the Lowdown's.

Lowdown =
156way adjustable coil overs =
Having an Arrrr = priceless

 

here are the spring rates... thanks to arren 123


complete thread here...


https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=223684


Here's the information I have from my research when I was buying the lowdowns.
Spring Rates - Mugen
Front – 385 lb 6.8 kg/mm
Rear – 245 lb 4.5 kg/mm

Spring Rates – Stock
Front – 246 lb /in
Rear – 140 ~246 lbs/in

Stock rates converted to kg/mm
Front – 4.4 kg/mm
Rear – 2.5 ~ 4.4 kg/mm


1 kg = 2.20462 lbs
1 mm = 0.0393701 inchs
conversion factor = 55.997317


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Arren
'00 FBP ITR#135 STX
'90 Civic Si Mini-me (A6/Y8 block/head)

 

i agree 100% you will be trying to dial in on your 16+ or however many way adj suspension before you even get on the track. i really dont see any point in getting such a complicated suspension unless racing is your bread and butter.

but you know what would have been nice for the lowdowns----rebuildable. that would have put the icing on the cake for me. but thats just me.

 

Len, who will spend $1600 on some Zeal's and never touch the height adjustment feature...EVER. Who will also never use all 16+ ways of adjustment, like must all other owners who have it.

Get the lowdowns and be done. Settings 1f 1r for daily driving. 3f 5r for track and autocrossing, sometimes maybe 4f 5r. Bam, done, over, 2 seconds to adjust.

 

weird....i was gonna make a thread about this earlier today.....

Justin- Who is in the market for suspension

 

how heavy are the mugen lowdowns?

 

I want lowdowns