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Old May 14, 2013 | 01:47 PM
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Good day all. I just got these rotors in the mail for my wagon and I found they had different markings on them.

Check it out, they look and feel the same.



One of them has the correct part number, 25430,




But the other one has another part number stamped on it,






The boxes they came it had the right part number, but the one with the wierd number didn't come wrapped in plastic and it came with some Brembo card of authenticity. I did contact the merchant about it but he has yet to make a resolution. I'm sure someone on here will know what happened here.
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Old May 14, 2013 | 02:56 PM
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Do I ask too many questions?
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Old May 14, 2013 | 03:02 PM
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"hey guys, if my rotors look completely different, is it possible they are in fact still the same ? "
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Old May 14, 2013 | 03:05 PM
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"hey guys, if my rotors look completely different, is it possible they are in fact still the same ? "
Hey guys I don't read OP's posts before I comment on em...

What application are they for?

Edit: 1997 Acura CL 3.0

You're good. The second, longer, part number is the newer number as listed in Brembo's online catalog.

Originally Posted by Brembo
09.6726.10

Oe Replacement

Disc Brake Rotor

•Nominal Thickness (mm): 25
•Outside Diameter (mm): 282

FRONT

•3.0L V6 2997cc
•Base
First, shorter, number has been superceeded but still shows as correct on the tire rack website.
Originally Posted by TireRack
Descripition
Front Axle
Height : 34.5 mm
Diameter : 282 mm
Centering Diameter : 92 mm
Pitch Circle Diameter : 114.3 mm
Brake Disc Thickness : 25.0 mm
Minimum Thickness : 23 mm
Num. of holes : 4
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Old May 14, 2013 | 03:10 PM
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I found out the answer from the merchant, they are the same parts just have different markings on them. Sorry to bother you guys.

I will be trying out Hawk HPS brake pads with these. Was that a bad or a good choice of pads?
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Old May 14, 2013 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Mishako129
I found out the answer from the merchant, they are the same parts just have different markings on them. Sorry to bother you guys.

I will be trying out Hawk HPS brake pads with these. Was that a bad or a good choice of pads?
I have them on mine, prepare to clean your rims more n more than you ever have.
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Old May 15, 2013 | 10:25 AM
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Thanks. I just received these wheel bearings but they don't seem to fit my wagon rotor. Are the wagon wheel bearings and coupe/sedan bearings different sizes?

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Old May 15, 2013 | 10:39 AM
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The bearings themselves are different. The wagon knuckle has a larger opening. The rotors are different in overall diameter but I don't know about the bolt pattern. The wagon and the V6 used 282mm rotors and the I4 used 260mm. Also the wagon and V6 were 25mm thick instead of 23mm
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Old May 15, 2013 | 10:48 AM
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The bearings themselves are different. The wagon knuckle has a larger opening. The rotors are different in overall diameter but I don't know about the bolt pattern. The wagon and the V6 used 282mm rotors and the I4 used 260mm. Also the wagon and V6 were 25mm thick instead of 23mm
The bearings are different? That was not what I was told by the person who sold me them. I just called them about the fitment and they said that they were for a wagon. So will these work without a problem or do I need to look for a different set?

I searched online and it seemed nobody sells front WAGON wheel bearings for the accord.
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Old May 15, 2013 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Mishako129


Not sure if well played, or you forgot the hub...
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Old May 15, 2013 | 10:52 AM
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Yeah I know they don't go on the rotors, just found that out.
but I looked on Honda's website and the part number with the coupe/sedan wheel bearing is the exacty same as the wagon, so it il work.


What would be the best way to go about replacing the front rotors and wheel bearings? Take the knuckle off and take it to a shop? I don't have the tools to do it myself I don't think.
This guide is pretty in depth though:

https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-accord-1990-2002-2/1997-accord-brakes-tutorial-1281812/
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Old May 15, 2013 | 11:06 AM
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Take the knuckle off and take it to a shop?
I would not take the whole knuckle, the shop will charge you more for that.

Step 1. Buy a 3-5lb single jack(mini sledge, not a rubber mallet)
Step 2. Take the knuckle off the car, and as shown in that thread remove the hub/bearing assembly. If the bearing is stuck to the hub, depending on how rusty it is, you may be able to thwack it off with a single jack. Or buy four 10mm, 1.25, 100mmlong bolts, screw them into where the four bearing bolts are, and with the single jack whack each bolt in a criss cross pattern until the bearing pops out. You will have to support the knuckle so that the hub/disc/bearing assembly has room to move.

EDIT:If you have the knuckle off, might as well replace the lower BJ too. If you don't have the patience for that, then you may as well bring the whole knuckle to a shop and have them replace the BJ and bearings for you.

EDIT II:When you pull the caliper off, pull of the caliper cage at the same time, don't unbolt the caliper from the cage, unbolt the caliper cage from the upright. If you removed all the bolts that hold the hose to the coilover there is enough line to rest the caliper on the ground without the need to support it, nor will it pull on the hose.
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Old May 15, 2013 | 11:25 AM
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Ok, you have a 91 and I was thinking Gen 5. Sorry
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Old May 15, 2013 | 06:27 PM
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Default Re: Did I get 2 different Brembo rotors?

Originally Posted by Mishako129
Thanks. I just received these wheel bearings but they don't seem to fit my wagon rotor. Are the wagon wheel bearings and coupe/sedan bearings different sizes?

Oh my god XD You never had Lego's as a kid did you?
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Old May 15, 2013 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by NZXTInerTia
Oh my god XD You never had Lego's as a kid did you?
lmao well put
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Old May 16, 2013 | 05:55 PM
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Oh my god XD You never had Lego's as a kid did you?
Sure I did.

Anyways, I just got the Hawk pads in and I took some pics. Taken with my new vado hd camera and a wide angle lens. Some eye candy for ya,

Question is, is this normal for the rotors to be bigger than the pad surface? I am 99% sure I have the right pads and rotors but I don't know if this is right,





Hawk box,

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Old May 16, 2013 | 06:04 PM
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How about if you check how they fit in the calipers instead of comparing them to your rotors first?
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Old May 16, 2013 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadlockRiff
How about if you check how they fit in the calipers instead of comparing them to your rotors first?
Knowing his habits, he'll probably ask what color they should be, how to install them, what lubricants to use on them, if his ball itch, and if his microwave oven is on.
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Old May 16, 2013 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by NZXTInerTia
Knowing his habits, he'll probably ask what color they should be, how to install them, what lubricants to use on them, if his ball itch, and if his microwave oven is on.



To the Chase: If the pads fit the caliper/caliper brackets go for it. Enjoy the dust :D
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Old May 16, 2013 | 06:54 PM
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To the Chase: If the pads fit the caliper/caliper brackets go for it. Enjoy the dust :D
The box says low dust, maybe these are different than the ones you had. I don't have alloys on right now anyways so it won't matter.

Will they wear down rotors faster though?
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Old May 16, 2013 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by NZXTInerTia
Knowing his habits, he'll probably ask what color they should be, how to install them, what lubricants to use on them, if his ball itch, and if his microwave oven is on.
Well my ***** do itch, and I did clean my microwave oven recently.
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Old May 16, 2013 | 07:31 PM
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Question is, how do you drive?
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Old May 16, 2013 | 07:39 PM
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Question is, how do you drive?
Not like a maniac but I can on rare occasion. I try to save gas most of the time and I have an oil leak. This is OT but I think its coming from the oil sender, however I just got that replaced with a Beck Arnley one because I thought it was leaking. My oil light does not come on. Is it possible that it is leaking again? It was tightened down well and I used black rtv. Is it possible my block is cracked there? Oil finds its way onto the plug for the sender and onto the filter then down to the downpipe. Its losing about 1/2 a quart every 200 miles. I thought it was my VC gasket but it doesn't appear to be leaking from there. I am stumped.
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Old May 17, 2013 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadlockRiff
How about if you check how they fit in the calipers instead of comparing them to your rotors first?
I am fairly certain the pads fit its the rotors that look different, even though they are 282mm and have the same interchange part number in the Honda catalog. But get this, the seller I got them from said they wouldn't fit.

These are what I got:

Brembo 25430 Front Disc Brake Rotors, Set of 2


http://www.ebay.com/itm/230915897239...84.m1497.l2649



Rotors:


Sub Type: Disc Brake Rotor
Notes: Center Hole Dia--92
Disc Diameter in MM--282
Fixing Hole Number--4
Min Thickness in MM--23
Overall Height--34.5
Vented or Solid--Vented








Interchange Part Number: 45251-SM5-A00

Same as 91' wagon, 45251-SM5-A00





Hawk HPS Front Brake Pads 1991-1997 Honda Accord Station Wagon LX


http://www.ebay.com/itm/400479770075...84.m1497.l2649
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Old May 17, 2013 | 11:28 AM
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Where does it say it won't fit?

Pads fit the calipers right?
If there's no clearance issues and the pad doesn't hit the bell or fall off the rotor go for it and just bloody drive. Stop thinking too much.
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