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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 05:33 PM
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Default CTR wheels dont cleat ITR front calipers...

Tsup fellas. so I've finally bought my CTR wheels for the IRT setup i bought a while back.

the wheels were "last" peace I needed.

but i go do a test fit and calipers are not clearing where the wheel tapers in a little.

what did I do wrong?

am I supposed to have spacers?

anyone run into this before?



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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 05:52 PM
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when i ran ITR wheels on my Accord I had to use a 5mm spacer on them. they rubbed on a buddies Prelude as well ..
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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 05:58 PM
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I see. 5 mm should probably do.
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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 06:41 PM
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wow. I just went as far as putting 1 inch worth of washer and the caliper is still not clearing. what a waste of money.
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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 06:51 PM
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what's the offset of the rim?

yes i ask because the civic type r might have a different offset compared to the type r.
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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 07:34 PM
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Default Re: CTR wheels dont cleat ITR front calipers...

The 98+ ITR was a 16x7 5x114. The CTR wheel is a 15x7 5x114. You're wondering why you have clearance issues? Your wheels are an inch smaller than they should be.
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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 07:55 PM
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Ouch! Really? That's what I call a gross oversight! Resell those CTRs?
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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 08:18 PM
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The 15" set of 99 Civic SI wheels clear my ITR front calipers. I assumed most stock 15" honda wheels would. Sucks to hear about CTR wheels
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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 08:34 PM
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It's not just size of wheel man, sounds like you forgot about the wheel "offset"
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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 08:38 PM
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The 98+ ITR was a 16x7 5x114. The CTR wheel is a 15x7 5x114. You're wondering why you have clearance issues? Your wheels are an inch smaller than they should be.
What he has are USDM ITR wheels guys. The JDM ITR came with 16s and the USDM ITR came with 15s. These are from my personal ITR #1047. He has other issues -> calipers that aren't ITR OR CTR for his EM1.
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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 08:43 PM
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Default Re: CTR wheels dont cleat ITR front calipers...

Now that you mention it the calipers do look to be shaped different than the ITR calipers I have on my car. Also have some indented fins on them that aren't on mine. So what calipers are those?
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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 08:50 PM
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Doesn't OP have the mugen active gate brakes? Aren't those Nsx calipers?
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What he has are USDM ITR wheels guys. The JDM ITR came with 16s and the USDM ITR came with 15s. These are from my personal ITR #1047. He has other issues -> calipers that aren't ITR OR CTR for his EM1.
Then these are all things the OP should have told us in (guess what) the OP!

OP, if you're going to complain about things not fitting, and ask us why they don't fit, you need to tell us everything you have with specifics.
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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by doood
Doesn't OP have the mugen active gate brakes? Aren't those Nsx calipers?
I thought NSX calipers had a lot more fins on them.. I can't tell which ones they are
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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 09:35 PM
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thats strange , i have itr calipers with prelude vtec rotos and they clear , can you take a picture of the caliper , because it seems it might be from a rsx/s2k
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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 09:56 PM
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ctr wheels are usdm itr wheels. no difference. the ek9 and dc2 type r line have the same five lug across the world. the 36mm hub on the 98 specs are the only varience and that has no effect on wheel fitment. somethings up with your brakes for sure. if it was pieced together from chasis other than the ek9 and dc2 id start looking there. ill take the wheels thought if you dont want them.
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Default Re: CTR wheels dont cleat ITR front calipers...

Except the 96-97 ITR, which had 15x7 4x114, and was still a DC2. While we're on the topic of what brakes are the same, if they are, then OP doesn't have OEM ITR calipers.
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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 10:48 PM
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they rubbed on a buddies Prelude as well
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Default Re: CTR wheels dont cleat ITR front calipers...

Thnaks for the interest fellas. so I found out that I have RSX calipers PN:16CL16VN (funny because I bout a type R caliper rebuild kit and it worked just fine)

In that case I'm wondering what knuckles I have because I'd like to just buy some Type R calipers and get it over with.

can some one help me out with this. one knuckle has these two stamps (SR-R-14N & 7HN)


I dint think NSX calipers would just bolt onto type R knuckles... I sure hope that's the case.

Kid6061 thanks for the wheels I love them.

I just hope the guy that sold me the 5 lug setup didn't sell me something other that he claim it was, so far it looks that way.

Originally Posted by doood
Doesn't OP have the mugen active gate brakes? Aren't those Nsx calipers?
they are active gates from what I've looked up. I just hope Type R calipers will clear them.
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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Dead CIVIC
Tsup fellas. so I've finally bought my CTR wheels for the IRT setup i bought a while back.

the wheels were "last" peace I needed.

but i go do a test fit and calipers are not clearing where the wheel tapers in a little.

what did I do wrong?

am I supposed to have spacers?

anyone run into this before?



Even if you were to get it to fit. I would not feel comfortable with the Calipers that close to the inside rim. The heat would be INSANE.

Side note - Im freaking jealous of your 5 lug and i know how Unreal the Braking is on a ITR. Years ago my buddy bought a 2001 ITR and i loved the engine but i was more impressed with the Suspension and Braking.
Freaking NASTY
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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 06:23 AM
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Default Re: CTR wheels dont cleat ITR front calipers...

type r calipers are the same as some accords. I don't remember which.

nsx calipers are indeed a bolt on for a 5 lug setup.
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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 06:54 AM
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Default Re: CTR wheels dont cleat ITR front calipers...

awesome. I just checked the rears and those seem to by Type Rs (9CLP14S)

So I'd be safe buying Type R caliper and they'd bolt right on?

PeRK82 thanks. I'm looking forward to that just gotta get over this caliper issue bump.
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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by kid6061
What he has are USDM ITR wheels guys. The JDM ITR came with 16s and the USDM ITR came with 15s. These are from my personal ITR #1047. He has other issues -> calipers that aren't ITR OR CTR for his EM1.
This! Usdm ITR, jdm CTR wheels are the same thing. By the looks of them you have Euro Accord R calipers. Those definitely are not ITR calipers. Sell the CTR wheels and get 16" jdm ITR wheels, they'll clear no problem
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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Dead CIVIC
awesome. I just checked the rears and those seem to by Type Rs (9CLP14S)

So I'd be safe buying Type R caliper and they'd bolt right on?

PeRK82 thanks. I'm looking forward to that just gotta get over this caliper issue bump.

Dont forget to change Proportioning valve from a ITR.

Alot of people dont even realize or know to switch the valve when they do the REAR DISC conversion ( from drum to disc )

It changes how much braking goes to the rear and vice versa.
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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by doood
Doesn't OP have the mugen active gate brakes? Aren't those Nsx calipers?
Nope, repainted S2000 calipers.
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