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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 10:19 AM
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Default Adding CAI (aka Did I do this right?)

let the pictures speak for themselves, I want y'all's honest opinion:

Did I do this correctly?




Engine Bay #1


Engine Bay #2


Leftover bits

I couldn't get the dang thing in there with both pieces of pipe in the bay-so I settled for what you see above.

Will that make a large difference in whp/torque/mpg or not?

If yes-how the nuts do I go about squeezing the second half of the pipe in there?
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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 10:22 AM
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How is it secured?
And it's NOT a CAI.
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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 10:22 AM
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its going to rattle or rub thats what that metal part is for to support it.
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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by grumblemarc
How is it secured?
And it's NOT a CAI.
it is when the second part of the intake is installed.
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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 10:32 AM
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It's called a short ram intake(SRI). i'll agree with you on the not rattling around those things weight next to nothing and the connector is pretty stiff had one like that on my first car(99 dx) with a y7 like your's
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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 10:50 AM
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why couldn't you get the other piece in? pipe goes down and under the frame rail.
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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by kyden
why couldn't you get the other piece in? pipe goes down and under the frame rail.
OP probably ordered the wrong one for his car no other reason it wouldn't fit ?
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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 11:13 AM
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damn the Y7 intake manifolds
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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 11:17 AM
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Yea it's a D16Y7 and I got the correct one for my LX, just had to have another pair of eyes on it as I was attempting to fix it a neighbor came out and went "oh hey man having trouble? It goes like THIS"

And just like that I got it with his help. Down and to the "left" under the Coolant overflow tank about level with the axle of the front passenger wheel. Rebolted everything nice and tight and I believe I have it correct.
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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 11:17 AM
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To actually answer your question, no, it makes no difference for "power".
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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by jbpnoman
To actually answer your question, no, it makes no difference for "power".
This. I have a SRI on my civic, just made it louder.
i'd love to go back to stock.
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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 06:09 PM
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Finished fixing it up here's the pics


Top shot of the bay with the CAI fully installed properly


Bottom end (you can see the front passenger tire to the left in this one)

Everything good now fellas (and ladies)?
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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 06:12 PM
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Get that ebay filter off and put a K&N or AEM one on those ebay ones are junk. other than that looks properly installed.
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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 06:15 PM
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hmmmm it would suck if it rained!
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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by g.r.crx
it is when the second part of the intake is installed.
Which it wasn't when the pic was posted.
Originally Posted by jonsey1886
Everything good now fellas (and ladies)?
Not really. As mentioned, get rid of that cheap Ebay filter. Also the first time you suck up some water will probably be your last. And if you plan on slamming the car it probably will.

And again; how is it secured? Because you look like you just have it hanging there.
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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 06:57 PM
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So just going to leave the filter hanging there? No bypass valve? No way to protect the filter?

Do you know what happens when an engine sucks up water?
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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 06:59 PM
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HYDROLOCK!!! Dun dun dunnnnnnnnnn!
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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 07:07 PM
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If you drive through puddles, you might as well just give me your money.
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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 07:15 PM
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That "thing" is absolutely ridiculous....


Go back to stock.... All your doing is jeopardizing your motor and looking foolish...
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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 08:04 PM
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I had to swap back to a SRI when I lowered mine. Better safe than sorry.
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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 09:58 PM
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No racing intended....I just deliver pizza-just trying to get more mpg and low end torque.

I have a bypass valve on the way in the mail-um thank you for pointing out my forgetfulness-and intend to replace the cheapo air filter as soon as I can afford to.

Also yea....getting some sort of retaining clamps/clips (similar to what hold the exhaust pipe to the car) tomorrow from the local auto store to hold the damn thing in place.
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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 10:04 PM
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You wont improve MPG. I ditched my CAI for a stock type r airbox and happy i did.
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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 10:15 PM
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I'm not sure where you got the idea that a CAI is going to increase your low end torque. You have a D series motor - no basic bolt-on is going to do anything other than make your car louder.
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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 12:12 AM
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Thanks for the input guys.....this is actually step 1 in a multi-step process....the next big one being adding the exhaust header (4-2-1/y-pipe) that I got the other day.

AFTER I properly deal with the CAI.

Question: Wouldn't the plastic trim panels offer SOME splash protection to the filter? I know it isn't here in the pics as I had to remove the main one to get under the engine proper but I did put it back on underneath once finished.

As far as where I got the ideas for this this SOHC upgrades thread in the FAQ and an older manager of mine at the pizza shop who suggested it beforehand as a way to (CAI+4-2-1 header) save gas. He's had several Civics over the years.
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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 12:31 AM
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Your older manager has succum to the extremely common misconception that basic bolt-ons do anything. They don't, at least not without a tune (which is getting into over-kill territory). You can get better gas savings by adjusting your driving habits than you ever will from bolt-ons.

The only plastic trim panels are kind of covering the wheel, so no, they aren't going to protect the filter. The problem is going to happen when you hit a pot hole on a rainy day/night, and your filter sucks up water. Water doesn't compress in a cylinder, effectively shooting your compression ratio through the roof. That can do anything from bend a rod (best case scenario) to crack a sleeve (worst case scenario) with a number of steps in between. If you aren't running a fully kitted, proper CAI setup, it isn't worth the risk.
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