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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 12:12 PM
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Here's the situation, I was Driving today, I was at a stop light and I put the car out of gear. As it turned green I put it into gear and as I did that the car just died. I sat there cranking it to start it up and it didn't go.

It cranks, but won't start.
I hear the fuel pump humming when I try to start it.
I'm not sure how old the spark plugs are, I keep reading that it could be a relay under the dash.

Does anyone have an idea on what it can be?
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 12:26 PM
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Something sudden like that will not be spark plugs. Pull off the distributor cap and have someone crank the car, see if the rotor spins. If it doesn't spin and you're really lucky, the screw may have backed out of the rotor. If it doesn't spin and you're not lucky, either your cam broke (unlikely) or your timing belt stripped (more likely).

If the rotor spins then put the cap back on and check spark.
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 12:51 PM
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I'll try that when I'm home.
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 01:06 PM
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Oh and unplug the distributor before you crank it, almost forgot to mention that.
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 02:20 PM
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Default Re: 1996 Honda Civic DX Will not start

If this isn't the problem, what could it be?

(I don't want to have to keep running back to the forum for answers lol)
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 02:28 PM
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Did your check engine light come on?
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 02:46 PM
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Default Re: 1996 Honda Civic DX Will not start

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Did your check engine light come on?
No it didn't.
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 02:57 PM
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Do you know cars well?

Familiar with the basics?
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 03:07 PM
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Yeah I'm pretty good, I came from a mechanic family, I've fixed cars for a few years now.
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 03:16 PM
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Well, start with the basics...


Fuel/air/spark

A timing light will tell you if you've got power to the plugs...

You heard the fuel pump and you have no CEL, so you probably have fuel..


Did you ever try and start it while pressing the accelerator?
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 03:23 PM
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Yes I did. Nothing happened.
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 03:32 PM
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Hmm..


I would try starting it again. just a couple times.

Then, take out the #1 plug and smell for fuel..

If fuel is present, then you have no spark.

To verify, you can cycle the engine with the plug in the wire resting on the valve cover ..

Just a couple times to check for a spark..

Its kinda hill billy, but works.

Keep back from the plug hole when turning over...lol
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryd2TheMax
Something sudden like that will not be spark plugs. Pull off the distributor cap and have someone crank the car, see if the rotor spins. If it doesn't spin and you're really lucky, the screw may have backed out of the rotor. If it doesn't spin and you're not lucky, either your cam broke (unlikely) or your timing belt stripped (more likely).

If the rotor spins then put the cap back on and check spark.
Rotor is spinning just fine.
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 06:25 PM
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Hmm..


I would try starting it again. just a couple times.

Then, take out the #1 plug and smell for fuel..

If fuel is present, then you have no spark.

To verify, you can cycle the engine with the plug in the wire resting on the valve cover ..

Just a couple times to check for a spark..

Its kinda hill billy, but works.

Keep back from the plug hole when turning over...lol
Will it spark if you put it on a wrench lol?
It didn't, so I'm assuming its the plugs right?

The plugs are orange/yellow so I'm going to change them and see if it helps.
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 06:31 PM
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So your saying you have no spark?


The plug needs to be in the wire and have the plug grounded..


Hold it and have a friend start...


If no spark, there is your problem..


Usually when the distributor igniter goes the CEL lights...

So you could have a short somewhere...

Hard to say... Do you know how to use a volt meter?
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 06:31 PM
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Default Re: 1996 Honda Civic DX Will not start

Found oil in my 3rd spark plug hole also. Could that stop it from starting?
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 06:34 PM
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^^^

Probably not. That would start out as a misfire...


It sounds to me like a short or the distributor.
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 06:39 PM
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can I see wear and tear anywhere?

The Rotor did look like it was worn down.
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 06:47 PM
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Your not understanding.


Things like that don't just up and quit.


They give you notice..
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 06:50 PM
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I didn't get any notice what so ever. No noises. No loss of power. Nothing. It just died. It sounded just like it sounded days weeks and months ago. Lol
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 06:56 PM
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None of this stuff (rotor/sparkplug/dizzy cap) will just suddenly cause it to stop running out of the blue, there would be tons of warning signs like misfiring, bogging, terrible idle, etc. for most likely weeks beforehand. If the fuel pump is working, and the engine is in time, its almost certainly something to do with spark, but MAKE SURE before starting off on a wild goose chase. Either use an induction timing light (good idea btw!) or you can do like I do without a partner: take a 3 foot or so piece of wire, wrap it good and tight around the spark plug threads (spark plug inserted into the plug wire boot firmly) then wrap the other end of that wire around some part of the engine or chassis to ground it.

Prop the plug up with rags or something so that you can see it from inside the car, then crank it and see if you have spark. If you have spark, and you have fuel, there isn't a lot else it could be but timing. If you don't have spark, start at the plug and test for power at each part, moving back to your battery/ECU. It's most likely a short or a ground issue, or possibly a distributor ignitor issue.
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Old Mar 27, 2013 | 10:19 AM
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Default Re: 1996 Honda Civic DX Will not start

Wait, I just realized something.

For a few months now, as I was driving my car would randomly shut off.

Especially when I'm driving and I come to a stop, it would just idle a little rough and die.
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Old Mar 27, 2013 | 10:33 AM
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So When I get home I'm going to check the the Distributor/ICM
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Old Mar 27, 2013 | 11:32 AM
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Wait, I just realized something.

For a few months now, as I was driving my car would randomly shut off.

Especially when I'm driving and I come to a stop, it would just idle a little rough and die.


If you had of said that in your first post, I could have told you it was the distributor...
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Old Mar 27, 2013 | 08:27 PM
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I checked the module, and the autoparts store said it was working, but they couldn't check the coil.

Is there a way I can do it?

Or should I just buy a new one? My Distributor looks a little rough, the wires are cracking and so is the plastic casing.
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