Ok im new to this site so please bare with me. I currently drive a 2000 Acura Integra LS. Everything stock except my suspension set up. After installing my camber kits I took it straight to Firestone to get my alignment done. The guy basically said that my car is not fixable. Camber cannot be fixed, toe, caster, etc. Everything is basically off. He said to fix everything I'd have to go back to stock. Now I'm lost, can someone please help me with this issue.
THANKS FOR YOUR TIME!!

I currently have:
-Koni STR.T shocks
-Eibach 2 inch lowering springs
-Skunk2 Pro Series Plus front camber kit
-Skunk2 rear camber kit


Here is the link so you guys can see how my car is at the moment.

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/...ps973ff659.jpg

 

What is "not fixable?" You can't get the camber or toe into spec? FWIW caster is not adjustable on these cars so he might be a ******* dumbass.

 

Well he said they could not fix the camber nor the toe.

check the link i posted, it should be working..

 

I have lifetime warranty alignment @ Firestone so I might just try another store. I just want to know why it's causing this issue.

 

not sure why he can't get toe back into spec. there's so much room for adjustment in tie rods it's impossible unless the wheel is literally sideways.

 

I really don't know. I did drive the car lowered for about a year without camber kit. I do need to replace the bushings on the rear right which i will this weekend. But other than that im lost on what to do.

 

Buddy, it seems as if he just doesn't want to fool with it, aka a lazy worker. I'd go to a reputable local place in your area.

 

Do it yourself

 

---I mean, see if you have any friends w/ a digital protractor and jack your car up and take them tires off... if you have wrenches then you're set. just measure the degrees w/ the digital protractor onto your brake rotors. Do that on both sides and tighten them up and you're all set!
---Yet if you don't have those, then just first take a look at the camber angles and such. Did the guy say why the things were unfix able? All the Skunk2 camber systems are is just a few bolts you loosen and move w/ your hand to get a better camber angle...in the front ,w/ the double wishbone suspension, you actually adjust the toe (sort of...not really that control able) when you make it more negative. Since, when you push the arm back towards the inner car, it pushes the suspension inward (on the 'top', for the negative degree) and 'forces' the front side inwards (producing toe)...
---So in conclusion, first just check it out first and see if it can be a one man job. If not, then take it to another shop and get them to straighten things out for ya! Let us know watcha do! :D **I still agree that it's weird what the Firestone guy told you though**

 

get a refund and go some where else. The guy is a ******* retard.

 

^^Yessss

 

To the rotors? How is that going to work?

 

Er what? I guarantee that the guy said they were not fixable because he didn't know how to adjust the adjustable camber kit. Which is odd because MOST shops will tell you that you NEED a kit and sometimes will try to sell you one.Go back and have another tech look at it.

 

Take your car elsewhere. The guy is either retarded or just lazy. When I brought my GTI for alignment, the tech set the camber on the rear tires and aligned all 4 tires to factory spec.

 

Does your car make any popping sounds? I have str.t's too. And don't always trust tire shops that have inept mechanics that are basically only good for changing oem suspensions. One tried to tell me my shock was blown without any actual proof of it. After confirming it wasn't blown, went in and called them on there bullsh*t diagnosis and they acted really defensive as if I was in the wrong. Got a half *** apology and haven't gone there since. Point is, find a shop or good mechanic that actually has knowledge of installing/adjusting aftermarket suspension parts.

 

^^ It'll be an angle of how the tire sits, if you actually put your tire correctly onto the hub... Just from my experience, it works...or you can go out and get the ones where it has three arms and you put the arms on to the tire will the car is on the ground and the digital protractor tells you the degree... I mean, if you guys don't believe me that's fine, ive just been doing it for a little while now and it works for me. :D but anyways, in the long run, if you want to, just go to another shop haha we all agree that we don't think the mechanic knew what he was doing ^-^

 

Your attempted explanation absolutely sucks. If anyone tries to follow what you're describing they'll be sitting there with these contraptions stuck on a rotor wondering WTF it is you're supposed to be adjusting.

 

Correlating the angles off the ground to on the ground just seems like gigantic pita to me.

Here's my homemade rig:

https://honda-tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes-54/took-my-diy-alignment-setup-next-level-3128246/

 

erm...So jacking your car up, taking a tire off and just laying a digital styled protractor [that measures in degrees] on your rotor vertically is hard to you? Sorry bud, but if that's hard, def either spend a couple of hours building crap or pay for someone else to do it. And @spAdam , isn't your camber contraption the same exact thing i just described? I saw you had a few metal bar looking things with a digital protractor on the side of it and like three 'needles'...which would go on the side wall, correct? So...exactly what I said? haha **Just Saying**, Not wanting to start an argument on HT :D (Only justifying myself)

 

Yes, but the car is on the ground. The camber gauge clips onto the wheel lips. Toe and camber angles are completely different with the car in the air.



This is the toe board:



It's hard to see the monofilament line but that's what you measure against.

 

Yeah, I forgot to add that I do it in the air and then again on the ground xD But nice little set up you got there xD See, we both got a pretty good setup, i just don't have pictures ^-^

 

You can keep saying it but I know there are people who will ask "After you slap on the protractor what do you do next?"
According to YOU just laying a protractor on your wheel all by itself is supposed to do something.
Like I said; your explanation is rough at best.

 

Sorry kid, I guess I didn't enter in the variable that some people don't realize that you press the button that says 'ON' and boom...you actually start to do 'manual labor' with your car and then use your brain to do the rest of the 3rd grade level stuff. Whenever someone like that would come along, there is a simple answer...Go to a local shop and try, try again...Good luck to ya.

 

I know how it's done moron. Did you NOT hear me say OTHER people? Did you hear me ONCE say that I personally did not understand? This is for THEIR benefit. I've been working on cars probably longer than you've been alive. Don't assume **** on this forum or you may get your *** handed to you. Your explanation of the procedure was crap. If you're going to explain something don't do it half-assed like you did, twice.

 

Okay let me first explain something to you, Mr. Adult (that better?) I said 'on a 3rd grade level' because your maturity is about at that level.

In the beginning of this thread, the guy asked for some help from us, the HT people, on one of his problems. We then of course dissed the mechanic and did the usual crap. Then I offered a solution half heartily while also saying that he could just go to another shop (an obvious option that he probably chose). I explained myself in a short answer sort of way. This is because I was leaving room for HIM to ask things that confused him.

Another member, spAdam, messaged back asking how that would work..I gave a simple (apparently too simple for you to understand or something) explanation and then he gave us a few pictures of his method, which I thus admitted that I forgot to add something to my explanation that he had inputted.

Also, I've learned a few things about your character throughout this thread... 1) you love to pretend that people don't see certain words, so you CAPS them... 2) you say you are obviously better than all of us w/ all your years like some sort of high school douche-bag...and...3) another thing leading to your maturity level, you seem to think you're a bad *** since you know how to use curse words to insult people...

Last but not least: you said, 'you may get your *** handed to you' ? really? hmm... i mean it's not like I keep insulting people or anything? I haven't tried to pick fights, you seemed to come to open fire on me anyways. I mean i even said that i'm not trying to start a fight and that i am only justifying myself...So, good day to you sir and good luck to @louiemac23 , I hope you've received some good news on your camber adjustments!