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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 08:18 PM
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I just got myself a progress coilovers and fitted to the car, everything is tight but where the tie rod connects to the arm of the suspensions dont exactly fit, the whole is slightly bigger.

Now the car drifts to side to side, anyone have this problem and what are the fixes?
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 08:33 PM
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did you buy coilovers for an rsx?
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He probably did, but he probably has a 02-04.
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 08:59 PM
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i was not aware the tie rods were different from 02-04 to 05-06




patiently waiting for my coils andy
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 09:07 PM
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Yes my car is a integra 2004 model same to the rsx in US

I got the right one, pretty sure...I did an wheel alignment 2 times and the adjustments look good but car drifts side to side...took it to the place where installed and they said the wheel is wiggling and they said the tie rod whole is bigger than the rod itself.
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 09:09 PM
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No you didn't get the right one, or it would have fit. Contact Progress and see what they say. In my opinion, and I'd like to think I know a think or 2..yours fit a 05-06.
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 09:39 PM
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No you didn't get the right one, or it would have fit. Contact Progress and see what they say. In my opinion, and I'd like to think I know a think or 2..yours fit a 05-06.
So i got the wrong one?

So the 05-06 is the same coilvoers but a bigger hole?
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Old Mar 20, 2013 | 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy@AMR
No you didn't get the right one, or it would have fit. Contact Progress and see what they say. In my opinion, and I'd like to think I know a think or 2..yours fit a 05-06.
You can go on thinking that, but in this situation your knowledge has failed you. Tie rod ends on Australian model DC5s (Type R and Type S) are the same throughout the model run from 01-06. Everything I have read suggests the US models are the same.
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Old Mar 20, 2013 | 03:12 AM
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Can you not use washers to correct the situation in the meantime?
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Old Mar 20, 2013 | 03:17 AM
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I also have a question are caster ment to be identical on each side? I have 1 almost 2 degree and the other side a bit over 1 degrees...and car seems to lean to the left.
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Old Mar 20, 2013 | 03:20 AM
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Maybe focus on one issue at a time? You have adjustable coilovers. You can adjust the lean out of it.
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Old Mar 20, 2013 | 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by grumblemarc
Maybe focus on one issue at a time? You have adjustable coilovers. You can adjust the lean out of it.
It originally came from the problem where the car lean to one side, i got it back to the store thats how they told me the tie rod wasnt fitting, then i checked myself but seems fine...

Im so lost atm, got 2 alignments done in 2 different places and still same problem, and now i realise casters aint the same on both side and maybe this is the actual cause...

ATM both sides are similar height tho...maybe 1-2mm off but i think thats alright....
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Old Mar 20, 2013 | 04:24 AM
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I ask again. Can you not use washers to fix the fitment issue?
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Old Mar 20, 2013 | 04:29 AM
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I ask again. Can you not use washers to fix the fitment issue?
I can probably give it a try it tomorrow, but I dont think it was the problem, I was told by the garage place its not tight but I checked it myself and it seemed tight. Ill get another person to check it tomorrow...
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Old Mar 20, 2013 | 06:18 AM
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Never mind what I said about washers. Misread your post.
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Measure the taper to verify. Something must be off here.

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Old Mar 20, 2013 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by doood
i was not aware the tie rods were different from 02-04 to 05-06




patiently waiting for my coils andy
I apologize, I meant to say that the tie rod ends are different from EP3, and RSX. But some RSX chassis have EP3 tie rod ends. We don't know the history of the car, so measurement would help. Either way, we have a solution for both. The ball joint is what differs from those years.

It was late, a bit tired. But you have no worries. Swift is a bit backordered, but once we get those springs we will button up your setup ok.

Now, I am only assuming here, but you probably should have ordered a set for the EP3. If you could verify the tie rod end that is installed on your chassis that would help.
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Old Mar 20, 2013 | 11:40 AM
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You can go on thinking that, but in this situation your knowledge has failed you. Tie rod ends on Australian model DC5s (Type R and Type S) are the same throughout the model run from 01-06. Everything I have read suggests the US models are the same.
That is fine and dandy, but in the end that doesn't tell us what he has on his chassis. On his specific chassis. We don't know the history of the car at all. I should correct myself, and I was incorrect to state those years, as I was thinking the lower ball joint, and not the tie rod.

So rather than going by what we all think it should have, the better question is, can you provide me the measurements of the taper? So we can rule out the tie rod end as the issue.
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 06:03 PM
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Actually, chargeR is correct. The tie rod ends did not change throughout the course of the DC5's model years in the United States. Furthermore, all Civic chassis share the same tie rod end. So, if by some odd fluke this user has Civic tie rod ends on his DC5... that would explain why there's slop.

DC5 - 13mm tapered hole for tie rod end
Civic - 12mm tapered hole for tie rod end

Tie Rod ends:

2002 Acura RSX Base KA5AT:
53541-S7A-003

2006 Acura RSX Type-S KA6MT:
53541-S7A-003

(Taken from http://www.oemacuraparts.com)

2001 Honda Civic DX KA4AT:
53541-S5A-003

2005 Honda Civic EX KA5MT:
53541-S5A-003

2002 Honda Civic Si KA5MT:
53541-S5A-003

2006 Honda Civic Si KA5MT:
53541-S5A-003

(Taken from http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com)
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Old Mar 24, 2013 | 04:57 AM
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Tie rod is actually tight... I looked at it myself today with a few friends.

I think the top hat is installed wrong. There are 2 dots pink and silver and a triangle i believe is an arrow. Does the dots matter? and where is the arrow ment to point towards the engine bay right?
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 12:09 AM
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nvm got the answer but problem still occur.
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Old Mar 27, 2013 | 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy@AMR
That is fine and dandy, but in the end that doesn't tell us what he has on his chassis. On his specific chassis. We don't know the history of the car at all. I should correct myself, and I was incorrect to state those years, as I was thinking the lower ball joint, and not the tie rod.

So rather than going by what we all think it should have, the better question is, can you provide me the measurements of the taper? So we can rule out the tie rod end as the issue.
Apologies if I was a bit abrupt but thoughtless posts like your one above, from a fellow like yourself that is respected and known to be knowledgeable, are how misinformation gets spread on forums.

Better not to post rather than post something incorrect.

As Toyomatt says if the taper of the tie rods is too small the most likely culprit is EP3 tie rod ends being installed in the car at some point in the past, as you say it's best to measure to be sure.
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Old Mar 27, 2013 | 01:57 AM
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I've ran across the opposite of this issue. I installed coilovers and the beveled holes for the tie rod end were too small. They had to be bored out to fit. OP in your situation measure your outer tie rod ends and the beveled holes in the steering arm on the coilover and go from there. There may also be a tie rod adapter sleeve/bushing to fix your issue.
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