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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 05:34 AM
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stock accord 96 ex f22b1 with stock suspension and stock tires 195/60 15...

the front wheel driver side rub the inner fender in some hard bump...

what could be the problem?




help please and thank`s in advance...
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 05:46 AM
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Well, your pictures kinda suck to say the least....

But what your describing on stock suspension and wheels/tires leads me to believe something is bent or the front struts are blown. Maybe both

So what did you hit?
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 06:53 AM
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thank`s for your fast answer...

well look this picture to see the red circles is the place the tire rub...

what could be bent? is here something could bent easy with a pothole?

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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 11:21 AM
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How old are the struts?
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 11:29 AM
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The rub spots are very high in the wheel housing. You should be experiencing a pretty crappy ride, and steering issues if there is that much travel in the struts. Notice any fluid around the strut? Vehicle been in a front end accident recently? How long has this been happening?
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 11:30 AM
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Default Re: tire rub inner fender stock accord please look pictures inside

It also looks like the fender liner is missing some fasteners. Its hard to tell, but it looks like it might be hanging low also.
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 04:43 PM
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Default Re: tire rub inner fender stock accord please look pictures inside

Originally Posted by jdowen2
How old are the struts?

I bought the car 3 month ago...

only with 58k miles...

i think they are original stock.
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by slipknotz721
The rub spots are very high in the wheel housing. You should be experiencing a pretty crappy ride, and steering issues if there is that much travel in the struts. Notice any fluid around the strut? Vehicle been in a front end accident recently? How long has this been happening?
well the car don´t have any accident...

but 1 month ago i bent a rim a little bit and I send to repair the rim and put new tire...





and yesterday was going in the highway like 70 mph and there was a bump in the highway and I hear the sound of the tire rubbing for the instant...

when I come home I check and see the rub place in the inner fender...

what could be? is normal?

the strut I think they are the stock original...
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 04:56 PM
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Weird how i asked what you hit...

Does the car sit level? Does it drive strait? Does the suspension in the front feel soft?

Bending the rim like that wouldnt surprise me if something was bent.
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Old Mar 5, 2013 | 04:32 AM
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yes sit level... the suspension feel good. I don`t know...

I have a civic 98 stock with stock original suspension and the accord have better suspension and more stability...

tell me what to check to see if there is something bent

what could be bent? thank for your help...
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Old Mar 5, 2013 | 06:57 AM
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Does the car "bounce" more than two times or so after you hit, lets say, a speed bump? Or even just a dip in the road?


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Old Mar 5, 2013 | 09:49 AM
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You may have bent the upper control arm. Does it pull to one side? A trip to an alignment shop should tell you what is wrong.
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Old Mar 5, 2013 | 10:16 AM
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Try checking the radius rod as well. I had the nut come loose one time and had the wheel rub the fender liner. It also caused alot of noticable steering problems. The alignment shop had adjusted the caster and didnt get the nut tight i guess.
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Old Mar 5, 2013 | 01:42 PM
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Take a picture of the front right and left wheels, or take a measurement from the wheel to the back of the fender opening.
Albeit the wheel sits back further on the left side from the impact, most likely bent front beam, if you replaced the upper control arm.
Check #5 for any creases or bends...

Pothole-Accord... we meet again.
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 05:19 AM
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Default Re: tire rub inner fender stock accord please look pictures inside

here some more pictures...

please opinnion and help is welcome...

the upper control arm is the original stock...

right wheel:



left wheel:



I send the car to an alignment shop and the worker tell me it`s ok he done the alignmet but really I don`t trust him...
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 07:55 AM
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Default Re: tire rub inner fender stock accord please look pictures inside

just to confirm:

they are the stock shock?
front:


rear:
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 07:59 AM
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Not shocks, struts. The struts have the spring wrapped around them. They hold the springs.


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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 92 civic ex 4dr
Not shocks, struts. The struts have the spring wrapped around them. They hold the springs.


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thank you for the explanation...

do you know if the strut of the picture are the stock original?

can you see the pictures of the wheel and tell me if there something wrong?
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 08:56 AM
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Stock struts are not gas filled....they are oil filled.
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 12:33 PM
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After the first pothole, did you ever replace the control arm? Or is it still the same one you repaired?
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 01:43 PM
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Per your pictures it looks like you have two different struts. One looks white, the other blue. Possible that one is not same spec as the other.
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Old Mar 7, 2013 | 03:56 AM
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Default Re: tire rub inner fender stock accord please look pictures inside

Originally Posted by MAD_MIKE
After the first pothole, did you ever replace the control arm? Or is it still the same one you repaired?
the same upper control arm... you remember...

I send the car to an alignment shop and the worker tell me it`s ok he done the alignmet but really I don`t trust him...

I don`t want to change parts without I`m sure to replace... the dolar is to expensive here in venezuela...

25 bs x 1 $.

eventually i`m looking to buy the upper control arm used but oem..
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Old Mar 7, 2013 | 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by jdowen2
Per your pictures it looks like you have two different struts. One looks white, the other blue. Possible that one is not same spec as the other.
yeah but the blue are the rear... and the black with white label are the front...

maybe before I bought the car the rear strut was changed and the front maybe are the stock from 1996...

I thinking to change only the front strut...

what brand you recomend to me to stock spring?

I searched and find the kyb gr-2/excel. but in some places don`t talk very good...

recommend me some front strut???? thank`s
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Old Mar 7, 2013 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by charliccs
the same upper control arm...
The thing about bent suspension parts and doing an alignment is that you can have the car aligned to stock specs while the car is static(not moving). But the suspension moves, if the upper arm is bent in a way to cause the wheel to travel backwards more than normal, it may be causing it to rub against the inner fender.

If the pothole impact was harsh enough to cause the balljoint to be popped out, I would think it may have also bent the upper control arm in a way that is not easily perceived.

Or it simply could be that the bumpstop on that front shock is missing or damaged to the point it allows more than normal travel.


#13 in the above image.

To clarify, the Accord does not have struts, struts are a combination of a suspension link and damper(shock).
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 01:13 PM
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Default Re: tire rub inner fender stock accord please look pictures inside

mad mike today I remove the strut shock and there is no bump stop just like you said





the shock look ok because it going up when i press down and its hard...

the other think is the bushing from the upper control arm: look please:


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