Hey everyone do I just bought my first Honda but have been building Hondas with friends since I was a kid anyways info about my
Car:
96 coupe
B20b
Port polished
Skunk 2 intake mani
Full exhaust/intake

So I was looking for what to do oil change with most of my friends used motol 10/30 and others using mobil 1 full syn what would u recommend ? And the same for my tranny I'm running a sc4 sir tranny what's best oil for that.

Another thing is power adders been quoted 1100-1300 for a shop to do b20v swap but I Donno if I would go for the right away I was thinking bigger throdle body was only thing I car really think of. What about cams or cam gears or might as well just b20v if I'm doing that.

Thanks for any help and I'm open to all your opinions thanks!

 

get yourself a p72 head, have it ported.. get the combustion chambers worked a bit.. then build the head. do a vtec conversion , get it tuned. if you need a list of stuff, i would just search items individually etc. plenty of camshaft posts etc.. oh and i am going to be running an omnipower 68mm tb. for my setup, it will work fine.

 

Mobile1 full synthetic (5 qt jugs from wal mart) with napa gold (Wix) oil filter is a good deal for daily driver.

 

Wish it was that easy lol gota have the car on the road in 2 weeks so I'm not going to jump into b20v right away I would love to but not right yet. P72 is gsr head right I have a b16 head currently just sitting around but from what I have herd b18c is the way to go. So should I just wait to do any more upgrades till I do the head? I know my skunk 2 intake mani will not fit a vtec head but if I went for a 66-68 mm throttle body could I reuse that on the next manifold ? Same with plugs and wires should I just wait or can I reuse for vtec head

 

Or what about just building the b20 head a bit? Seen a lot of ls non vtec builds but not a lot of b20 non vtec why is that?

 

Bump looking for all your opinions !

 

your questions are all up to you. I would take your time and research your options, but here is your answer for cylinder heads

http://hondaswap.com/engine-building...uild-up-71444/

 

Ok thanks just wanted to see what other ppl say or have done so many different things I could do I don't know what to do yet haha

 

lol.. I would just do a b20v.. I will have a GSR head forsale in a couple weeks.. lmk.

 

Pm me when u do and we can talk then 😉

 

You already have a great platform of a head to do a B20V with...don't go *** backwards and buy a GSR head when you already have a great Vtec head to work with. B18C is not actually the way to go...its B18C5 if you want to be technical. Your B16 is pretty much that without the same valve-train.

 

the p72 has a better combustion chamber and ports.. while he can use either head, the p72 is the way to go.. Your not going "assbackwards" as every bit of info available contradicts that statement.

 

A P72 does not have a better combustion chamber or ports, it has DIFFERENT combustion chambers and ports. And yes your going "assbackwards" when you spend money on something you do not need. You can't insist this dude go P72 just cause your gonna have one for sale...

 

The p72 has a smaller combustion chamber then the pr3.. The entry on the ports on the p72 are much more desirable over the pr3. The pr3 ports dont have much room for porting and flow tests I have looked at show once both heads are ported, the p72 flows better in the end.. If you are going with higher comp, the smaller chamber combined with better angled ports low end and midrange over a pr3 =better.. while you can achieve your goals with either head, doesnt make any approach "assbackwards".

 

...can you read? How you feel about the comparison on P72 vs PR3 means jack to me.
I'm saying its assbackwards to spend money on something you do not need. How bout I just omit that word and rephrase for you to understand.

Any B-Series Vtec head can be used to do a B20V. Since the OP already has a B16 PR3 head, there is no reason to spend money on a B18C P72 head.

 

Your attitude flat out sucks. This thread isnt about you in the first place. I do not give about what YOU would do, as this is an opinion based off the information that has been covered a million times over. If your reading comprehension was better, you wouldve read that the OP already heard the p72 was the way to go ANYWAY, so in the end. You have your opinion and I have mine. You dont need to come off on the attack.

p.s. Im not trying to sell him a damn thing. I just mentioned I will have one. Sell the b16 and buy a cheaper p72 since the head has been sitting around, im sure it needs to be built ANYWAY. he wouldnt be wasting any money or doing any "assbackwards" swap.

 

Guess you can't read...Oh well.

 

alrighty...


Back on Topic...

Personally I like torque for the street. I am building a B20 non vtec myself and it is almost ready to drop in the car. The mods are too much to list here, But I have the P8R head.

The P75 is one of the worst flowing heads of hondas non vtec line up. This is why its easier to swap to a vtec as it has much better flow. My P8R flows Close to a B16 head, but tapers off at 650cfm area..

Either route you decide should take proper planning and budget. 1100 for some schmuck to swap over a head is crazy. read up on how to DIY and save your cash for tuning!

 

I love my p72 head it raises compression more than the b16 head. But the b16 has better airflow compared to the p72 head. If u WAS goin to get the p72 head get it port and polish and you'll have best of both worlds higher compression and better head flow.

But if ur gonna stay with the b16 head I would get some high compression pistons and since the b16 head flows great you'll have big torque gains and u wouldn't have to port and polish the head.

 

It was 1100 with his gsr head computer and everything but if I did have the time to build one I would but it's my dd and I work 65km from home 6 days a week so if I can have a shop do it in 2 days why not if I was swapping out the whole motor different story could do that in a weekend. But in my mind for now I think I'll run the b20 for now and weigh my options later on I just order a skunk2 throttle body might just run what I got all summer then build the motor up next winter

 

If u want to try out ur b16 head on the b20 block and see if u like the power gains and torque. If u decided u need more just drive on the b16 head for awhile and save up and just find a p72 head and port and polish it.

Or change out ur pistons and go high compression pistons and keep the b16 head.

 

I've herd from half the ppl pr3 is the way to go and the thee half says p72 u have a good point just running the b16 I have could do me over for now till I wona rebuild it next year besides the full head what else do I need I've looked into golden eagle ls/b20 conversion kit so I'd go with that also what else ??

 

I've read a few reveiws/ tests with MObil one and it seems to be the one with the highest amount af metal in it, wouldn't advise it, but to each his own

 

I'd look into gettin into
Arp rod and main bolts
Arp headstuds
Chipped ecu tune for ur motor setup to break in then dyno tune
Vtec head gasket
Vtec oil pump or any obd2 oil pump will work (obd1 oil pump non vtec will not work)
Vtec timing belt
Vtec water pump
B18c b16 gasket kit
If want to stay in vtec get a gsr tranny or b16 tranny or type r tranny is the best way.
But ur b20 will b fine to use until save money for a short gear tranny.

I believe that's all u need to run a basic b20v.

 

I have a sir trany so I'm good with that I have the head was looking into taking the whole motor apart just swapping the head and doing everything else needed but I know the rods will snap pretty easy on anything above 8000 rpm is it possible to just swap heads and do the work without droping the motor ?