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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 07:36 AM
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Default Aftermarket or OEM LCAs

So I'm on my way of piecing together a rear sway bar kit with the OG Comptech brace and an Eibach 25 mm bar with endlinks, but one thing I would like to ask, are aftermarket LCAs neccesary if I don't track every day, and do some spirited driving every now and then, and if someone can give me a dumb down idea of the point of adjustable LCAs that would be really appreciated.

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Ok, it seems I have 2 options:
1) Buy new Function7 LCAs
2) Buy Hardrace hard rubber bushing

Pros for F7 LCAs:
-Ease of install
-Fast (no waiting for bushings)
-Warranty
-Looks nice

Cons:
-Expensive

Pros for Hardrace:
-Less Expensive
-Superb Quality (rubber)
-I prefer OEM look

Cons:
-Waiting
-Unsure if able to install in garage
-Possible Damage

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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 08:35 AM
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You don't need aftermarket lower control arms, dedicated track car or not.
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 08:43 AM
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You don't need aftermarket lower control arms, dedicated track car or not.
Thanks!

I guess the LCAs that all the other cars I see probably have it for aesthetics.
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 09:02 AM
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For 99.5% of cars aftermarket LCAs are purely aesthetic. There is an advantage to ligher LCAs, however, as 1) they weigh less and 2) half the mass is unsprung. So hardcore racers might consider changing LCAs for those reasons.

However there are some compromises too, as aftermarket LCAs usually have inferior bushings, and do not fit rubber bushings. For a car that sees routine daily use the best setup is probably OEM LCAs with rubber bushings. This is especially true for Integras, as aftermarket LCAs often have incorrect sway bar mounting points.
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 09:40 AM
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 11:01 AM
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Default Re: Aftermarket or OEM LCAs

Originally Posted by PURPLERANGER
Thanks!

I guess the LCAs that all the other cars I see probably have it for aesthetics.
Yes.
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Dc2_ShowStopper
i would go with aftermarket in my opinion, if your going upgrade your suspension. Aftermarket like f7 are beefier and have been proven to last. Oem control arms are meant for dalily rides not for track usage or driving aggressively. I mean aftermarket are expensive but you get what you pay for.
And I have a feeling you have no true personal experience otherwise you would be aware the OEM is all you need.
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Dc2_ShowStopper
Oem control arms are meant for dalily rides not for track usage or driving aggressively.
Please qualify that statement.
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Dc2_ShowStopper
Oem control arms are meant for dalily rides not for track usage or driving aggressively.
Look up chuckhole testing, and let me know what aftermarkte company does the same thing.
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 12:27 PM
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OEM. If you want something shiny/flashy, Function7. There is no need for this thread to go any farther, only 2 options worth anything.
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by PURPLERANGER
Thanks!

I guess the LCAs that all the other cars I see probably have it for aesthetics.
You guessed it.

But if you like them/want them, get them!

I'll be buying the function7 LCA/sub frame brace combo soon.

Originally Posted by Dc2_ShowStopper
i would go with aftermarket in my opinion, if your going upgrade your suspension. Aftermarket like f7 are beefier and have been proven to last. Oem control arms are meant for dalily rides not for track usage or driving aggressively. I mean aftermarket are expensive but you get what you pay for.
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 09:45 PM
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Default Re: Aftermarket or OEM LCAs

the other reason would be if your car didn't come with sway bar mounts

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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 10:53 PM
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Default Re: Aftermarket or OEM LCAs

Originally Posted by STOCK_SOHC_DX
the other reason would be of your car didn't come with sway bar mounts
My VX hatch did not come equipped but I will probably just use the LCA off a GSR when time comes for rear sway bar.
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Old Feb 17, 2013 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by STOCK_SOHC_DX
the other reason would be if your car didn't come with sway bar mounts
I have a GSR, so it came with a sway bar stock. If I really needed some LCAs, Ill just get some Type-R ones from JHPUSA.
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Old Feb 17, 2013 | 12:00 PM
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Then you will have to replace your rear suspension to a type r. Just use what you got!!!
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Old Mar 30, 2013 | 08:27 PM
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OK, so now im on the final steps to executing this project but I need a few more pieces of guidance, if I were to remove the LCA bolt, would I have to replace the bushings? and if I do which do you guys prefer, PU or rubber, brands?
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Old Mar 30, 2013 | 09:02 PM
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Default Re: Aftermarket or OEM LCAs

No need to replace the bushings if they aren't bad.

OEM or aftermarket replacement would be fine.

if you want aftermarket get Suja or Hardrace.
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Old Mar 30, 2013 | 10:39 PM
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Default Re: Aftermarket or OEM LCAs

Function 7 is good for a variety of reasons. Warranty, good bushings, lighter weight, adjustable endlink mount location for fine tuning or compatibility. It's just a lot of money to initially shell out.
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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 03:56 PM
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Default Re: Aftermarket or OEM LCAs

Originally Posted by Libertariat
No need to replace the bushings if they aren't bad.

OEM or aftermarket replacement would be fine.

if you want aftermarket get Suja or Hardrace.
I noticed both of those are rubber bushings, but what about Energy Suspension? They're Polyurethane, and supposedly much easier to install. I don't think I'll have the time during install to get a 20+ ton press, and install rubber bushings, unless its possible to install it with the "threaded-rod" technique.

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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 04:25 PM
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Default Re: Aftermarket or OEM LCAs

Doesn't matter what kind of bushings you use, removing the stock ones always sucks 10x more than installing the replacements.
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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 04:28 PM
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Hardrace is hard rubber. I'd take that over poly any day. And I have NEVVER seen polyurethane OEM style bushings. Never.
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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 08:35 PM
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do you think this "threaded rod technique" would work for hard rubber bushings?
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