Like the title says, I have some questions here as i am swapping my b16a from my old del sol shell over to my new da shell.

i ordered the jumper harness package already. just waiting for it to come into the mail. i am using the ecu from my b16 as my hondata is already installed and tuned for my boost setup.

i am looking for which mounts i need to use. i am using the b16 hydro trans. and am going to be ordering the hush performance hydro conversion maybe next week.

i know i need the hydro mount for the da chassis. which drivers side mount do i need to use. i will be ordering new mounts tomaro. do i need to take the mounting bracket off the b18a1 and bolt it to the b16 and then use replacment mounts minus the hydro trans mount? also what t bracket do i need to use. i have two right now. one from the del sol and the oem one from the integra.

 

Save yourself a lot of trouble and buy a YS1 cable trans case (doesn't matter if it's LS or B17A) and swap the guts from your hydro trans into it. Those cable to hydro kits work like crap.

 

Well i am trying to save my self from having to buy another clutch. I have a next to brand new $600 clutch for my hydro trans. And i was going to swap in a cable trans because i didnt like the idea of a cable to hydro conversion that still used the cable. But then i came across the hush version which makes the whole thing hydro no cable needed so its basically a full hydro setup.

 

The clutch is the same between a YS1 and hydro trans, you just need to use a '92 - '93 Integra throwout bearing. It's only the the S1, Y1, J1 ('90 - '91) transmissions that use a different clutch.

 

Hmm ill have to look into that. I just thought or read that all cable trans use a smaller spline or something and that was not an option then buying yet another clutch as this one is fsirly new.

So as long as it is a 92-93 da trans YS1 my clutch from my s4c b16 trans will work? That would actually save me some money seeing as the hush conversion kit is $350

 

Yes. You just need the throwout/release bearing for a '92 - '93 Integra as it's different from the hydro version. The rest of the clutch is the same though.

That's the idea. All you really want is the case, swap the guts from your current B16 trans over to the YS1 case.

 

Now does it have to be the ys1 out of a 92/93 gsr or ANY 92/93 da trans?

Also thanks so much for the info. I just went back and read some info and for some reason i over looked it. I was breezing right thru and never saw that information.

 

Any '92 - '93 Integra trans will work, just make sure it has the YS1 stamp (if in doubt slide your hydro clutch disc over the input shaft to check)

You're welcome. I don't think a lot of people are aware this can be done. You can always look for a YS1 trans with issues to keep the costs down since all you really need is a good case, if it's a good transmission you can always swap the YS1 guts into your leftover hydro case and sell it as a hydro trans to recoup some of your costs.

Here's a writeup on the swap itself:

http://www.outlawatvclub.com/users/s...ny_how_to.html

The only thing it doesn't mention is you should really shim the mainshaft and differential according the instructions in the factory service manual.

 

Appreciate the info man. Helps alllllot.

Do you by chance know about my mount question. My mount that is bolted inside the timing cover has a different angle that the one that came off the b18a1 motor. Do i have to use that bracket from the b18 and bolt it to my b16 so the ls mounts fit?

 

Honestly it's been a long time since I swapped one of these into a DA. I have done it, but it was about 5 years ago. A B17A1 ('92 - '93 GS-R) mount and bracket should definitely work. I can't remember if the B18A1 cast iron bracket will bolt to the B16 block (for some reason I want to say it wont, or it doesn't fit the timing cover properly, but I really can't remember for sure)

 

94eg8- what if the trans is a 90/91 ys1 and i swap internals from a cable b16 trans into it. Will my clutch fit. Or does the case absolutely have to be a 92/93? I have a local guy that is willing to trade me my hydro b16 trans for his ys1 he also has a cable b16 trans he said he would swap the internals into the ys1 trans for me. Or even if i cant use his cable guts in it.if his ys1 is 90/91 will my clutch fit?

 

No such thing. All YS1 transmissions came from '92 - '93 Integras, at least here in North America.

If it's a cable B16 trans chances are it's an early style small spline version. I'm quite sure JDM YS1 transmissions exist, but you don't see them as often. If it's a large spline B16 cable trans then it's already a YS1 and wouldn't need to be swapped. If it's a small spline it A. wouldn't swap, and B. even if it did you'd still have the small mainshaft that doesn't fit your clutch.

Remember, the whole idea of using the YS1 case is that you get to keep the transmission you have now, that you know the condition of other than the case. That includes the mainshaft that clutch slides on.

 

Got ya. Only reason i was asking is because this guy local who has one has a ys1 and a cable b16 and i was guna trade him my s4c for his ys1 and cable b16 and he was guna swap the guts for me of his two trans and take my hydro trans as trade. His cable b16 has a hair line crack tho. He said he would swap it all over and clean it freshin everything up for extra $150. Plus my trans as payment. So we will see. Im guna look at his trans and if i dont like his cable b16 i may just buy the ys1 and have him swap my hydro guts into his ys1 he wants $300 for the ys1 and $50 for the cable b16 with the hairline crack in the case. Or trade for my hydro trans plus $150 to swap clean and paint the ys1 with b16 guts

 

If you have your clutch out take the disc with you. See if it slides on the B16 mainshaft. If it doesn't there's no point in looking at it any further. Also $300 for a YS1 LS trans seems a bit steep unless it's in really good shape. By the same token $50 for a cable B16 trans is dirt cheap unless it's got something severely wrong with it besides the cracked case. Honestly I have a bad feeling about this deal.

What kind of shape is your B16 trans in? No grinds? LSD or non-LSD?

 

My current b16 trans shifts likke butter. No grinds no pop outs. It is non lsd. Im assuming. Doesnt have a lsd stamp on it and my intermediate shaft is still in so i havnt looked thru the axle holes yet. I was so determined on this hush performance conversion cause it is a full hydro setup no using the cable to those janky hasport conversions. I have nothing but bad things about that style conversion. But the hush mounts a master cyl. Under dash with the resivor in bay. That kit is $350 plus i was going to buy his $85 reverse slave cyl. I duno man im so boucin around on this swap.

 

i agree just find a ys1 case save u so much hassle,the ys1 gsr trans seem to not be the strongest trannys

 

If it was me I'd keep my eye out for a YS1 cable trans for no more than $150 and use the case. I've seen them pretty cheap at times. Every once in a while you'll find someone selling just the case for $50 or so.

 

thanks for the info guys. i will keep a look out for a ys1 case or cheap trans. i am trying to get this swap finished as soon as possible. so if i cant find it i may just go with the hush performance hydro conversion if it comes to it.

on a side note. does anyone else have imput on my mount questions??

 

I was looking for your mount question but must have missed it. If there is anything I can help you with please ask. We do respond to alot of questions by email hush22@***.net that is the best way to contact us and we love to help with any swap questions.

Thank you for your interest either way you go.

Swapping trans parts may be cost effective and depending on your performance goals that may be what is best for you. When you start getting into any type of racing using a heavy duty pressure plate thats where we had problems with the cable.

It was from our own racing that we developed this part.

 

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