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Old Jan 28, 2013 | 08:18 PM
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So I took my 1996 civic lx sohc (auto) to smog. Says air injection FAIL.
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15mph
HC MAX 65/ AVE 9 / MEAS 60
CO MAX .57 /AVE .03 / MEAS .30
NO 487/67/1704

25MPH

HC 49/6/64
CO .55/.03/.37
NO 774/62/1644
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Old Jan 28, 2013 | 08:21 PM
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Please post a picture of the actual sheet.

At first glance, however, it looks like the cat is dead.
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Old Jan 29, 2013 | 09:21 AM
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Old Jan 29, 2013 | 09:28 AM
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P0720 is an automatic transmission trouble code.

Did the emissions tech explain the Air Injection failure to you? Did you ask?

A bad cat is suggested by the fact that both HC and NOx failed.
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Old Jan 29, 2013 | 09:35 AM
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A bad cat is suggested by the fact that both HC and NOx failed.
+1 sounds like the cat fell below threshold and is no longer efficient.
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Old Jan 29, 2013 | 09:37 AM
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even though the test said PASS under Cat?
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Old Jan 29, 2013 | 09:38 AM
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& no he just literally said "oh no bad bad " i told him whats wrong he just highlighted stuff and said "ok now go go "
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Old Jan 29, 2013 | 09:38 AM
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even though the test said PASS under Cat?
You should ask many questions when you have an emissions test that fails.

The "pass' probably meant that he saw a cat in your exhaust system, not that the cat was good.
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Old Jan 29, 2013 | 09:40 AM
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& no he just literally said "oh no bad bad " i told him whats wrong he just highlighted stuff and said "ok now go go "
Call emissions place and ask why you received this response when you were seeking guidance on how to make things right.
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Old Jan 29, 2013 | 09:41 AM
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oh i did ask him a lot of questions he just said i dont know and sent me to someone to get checked. -___-

could this have anything to do with it being a cat from a y8 and not y7
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Old Jan 29, 2013 | 09:48 AM
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oh i did ask him a lot of questions he just said i dont know and sent me to someone to get checked. -___-
You need to locate a more helpful worker there. Ask for a supervisor. Tell them that you too are interested in clean air and that you just need some basic guidance on the Air Injection failure.
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Old Jan 29, 2013 | 09:50 AM
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only reason i say its a y8 is because its not the EM/cat combo in one

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Old Jan 29, 2013 | 09:52 AM
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hes the only person working there unfortunatly...you live and learn...ill go back today though and ask him about it...hopefully he has more to say. i dont want to pay a mechanic for something the smog tech should have explained

appreciate all the help btw!!
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Old Jan 29, 2013 | 09:54 AM
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ill go back today though and ask him about it...hopefully he has more to say.
This^ is what I'd do. Be polite and keep your composure. The Air Injection failure is almost certainly due to something he saw on the visual inspection.
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Old Jan 29, 2013 | 09:59 AM
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in regards to your picture uploaded it said the countershaft sensor was a possibility.
i just replaced both speed/countershaft sensors because i thought it would fix my odometer(not moving) this was after doing the smog.

could the new countershaft sensor affect the emmisions?
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Originally Posted by RonJ@HT
This^ is what I'd do. Be polite and keep your composure. The Air Injection failure is almost certainly due to something he saw on the visual inspection.
most definetly!!
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Old Jan 29, 2013 | 10:07 AM
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If you reset the ECU, does P0720 return?

P0720 could be caused by a bad countershaft speed sensor or by a problem in the circuit or ECU. Use a multimeter to do the electrical tests in the diagram.

Are you noticing any transmission performance problems?

Does the speedometer work but the odometer doesn't?
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Old Jan 29, 2013 | 10:10 AM
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no the tranny feels fine nothing out of the ordinary.

and yeah the spedometor works just not the trip or mileage
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Old Jan 29, 2013 | 10:39 AM
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and yeah the spedometor works just not the trip or mileage
This is just a speedometer/odometer problem. If the problem continues, replacing the speedometer unit or cluster would fix it.
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Old Jan 29, 2013 | 10:54 AM
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Cool thanks! And in regards to the emissions test Its the cat?
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