Hello, I was just thinking about my plans for my 1997 prelude. I want power, but I also want the engine to last a good while. Is there anyway for a turboed h22a4 to last a while? Or should I just go all motor?
Please post your thoughts...
Thanks!

 

And the Oxymoron statement of the day is,(Drumroll)

 

turbo

just bolt a specific kit up to it, most cost effeciant way to go, leave it at the stock setting, and it should be very reliable

 

If you do a low boost application, you'd be pretty reliable, but you'd be denying yourself alot of power. If you have the dough, build up your engine to take more boost.

 

Cottonwoodz has made the best point here. There's no such things as reliable FI, especially on the H22. Don't let anyone tell you anything different. There are plenty of people who have blown there motors with kit turbos at low boost. If you want reliable, stay stock.

 

Whats the fun in that?

 

haha... kinda like Microsoft Works....

 

Thanks for the ideas... Anyone else have anything to say?
Yes, that was a bad way to phrase what i was trying to say, but i just wanted to know what the best idea would be to get the most out of the engine. My car only has 28,xxx on it right now so i have a while to go.

 

it depends on how much u wanna spend man... right now ur engine is perfect for boost... u dont need too much engine work... but u have to pay about 3 grand to get a good turbo setup up and running... the cheapest would be nitrous.. but thats just like a cheap hooker, it'll give u the fast thrill and its cheap, but its gay after a while when u kno ur engine is capable of so much more... if u go N/A be ready to spend ALOT of money, especially if u dont have mechanical skills... good luck

 

by the way, if i were you, i'd boost without a doubt....

 

Nitrous is the safest and easiest way to make power out of your H22. It's also the cheapest. Run 75 shot with tuning and you could go through a bottle every 2 weeks and probably never have a problem.

I ran 3 bottles through my car in 11 days before I was turbo without a hitch. I've since sold the turbo kit and am going N/A + Nitrous.

 

http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291550559

here's an idea of what i have gone through so far for my turbo setup

 

You should figure out how much power you want in the end. Then figure out how much you want to spend. This should tell you what road you should take. FI can in my opinion be made decently relible. Unfortunately that 'reliability' will come with hefty price tag.

 

h22a4 + fi= $$ do it right the first time and youll never regret it

 

Could you please list exactly what you had to do to the engine to prep it for a turbo? Also, what was the final cost for engine work and turbo? What kind of turbo is it? Has it been reliable?... I've heard if you dont have a hondata stand alone setup then the idle can get messed up... is this true?
Thanks!

 

it's coming, full build up, my car is sitting on jack stands outside my dad's shop right now, but the engine is slowly, and accuratley being assembled inside the shop.
H22A4 in my 97 Prelude, daily driven:
GE Sleeves, .25 over
Eagle Rods (balanced by VS Racing)
JE 10.0:1 Comp pistons (Balanced by VS Racing)
GE Intake Manifold (thanks Vince)
Prodrive Oil Pump gear
knife-edge and balanced crank by KMS (http://www.honda-performance.com)
Moroso Oil Pan
KMS stage 2 head job
KMS stainless steel nitrided valves
Crower Stage 2T cams
Crower valve springs
Crower Titanium retainers
RC 550cc injectors
AEM high flow fuel rail
AEM FPR
Erick's Racing TB
NX Directport
NX N-ter cooler kit
GReddy based turbo kit (TD05/18G, soon upgraded to a BB 20G or bigger)
GReddy FMIC
Greddy Type S BOV
Custom FMIC piping by Smith Family Tire in Hendersonville NC (he drives a mean RX-7)
Hondata s200 w/ datalogger
APEXi AVC-R
HKS Type O turbo timer
Walbro Fuel Pump
Quaife LSD
DSS stage 3 axels

 

Have Fun

 

Ok, thanks to all, but one more thing. I have been reading on http://www.jacksonracing.com about their superchargers. According to them "By clever design and sophisticated machining operations, the Eaton superchargers have the highest efficiency rating in the industry along with the quietest operation and longest life. Using one of the superchargers in an aftermarket performance application results in superb power and perfect driveability. Add to that the long life of the core components and the combination makes a knock out punch for owners looking for the ultimate in power improvement and reliability."
Basically saying that for a stock engine it will not hurt the engine and will continue to be reliable. I have heard these things from other people also...
So what i want to know is if any of this is true? Its still 233 whp and 182 torque... not bad

 

I have had my JRSC on for 6 months now and i love it. No problems yet. I would recommend getting some bigger injectors and getting it tuned with Hondata S200. Also do NOT expect those numbers you listed right out of the box its more like 215-220whp when you get it.

 

In a poll on PreludeOnline.com, 30-40% of the JRSC Preludes have blown engines. It's not install it and forget it.

I don't believe anybody's hit the fabled 230whp mark.


[Modified by DirtyLude, 10:40 PM 10/27/2002]

 

Could you possibly post the link to that poll just for curiosity? Of those who blew their motor were they running more than stock boost? Also, what would need to be done to maintain the supercharger?
Thanks!

 

Boost, boost, and more boost. There's nothing like it. And if you maintain it, it'll do you good and give you just what you are looking for.

 

whats the fastest all motor prelude you guys know of???

 

I have hit the "fabled" 230 mark. in fact i hit 235whp, although i have other mods i'm still at 6 psi. Probably everyone on that board that blew their engine wasn't responsibile with it. Superchargers can be however just as dangerous as turbos, or nitrous if not maintained responsibly. It all depends on your goals for the car, Whatever forced induction you decide to get make sure you have it tuned properly, you will be much happier in the long run.

 

PO.com is a pay site now, so if you want to pay the $6, the post is a sticky in the Forced Induction forum following peoples success/failures with FI. Theres 13 not blown jrsc's on the list and 6 blown. The message was supposed to keep track of all these people, but since the site went pay it's impossible to get updates and some of the not blown engine category may have moved into the blown engine category in the last couple months. 1 of the 13 not blown engines has moved to turbo.

I'd like to see the SAE corrected dyno for that. Sedn it to Sina to put up on his page. http://home.tampabay.rr.com/prelude/

What do you need to do to be 'responsible' with the JRSC? According to JR you put it in and you have a super car.

If you're not willing to spend alot of time on your car and money above and beyond the original kit price, don't bother with it. Even then it can be a frustrating pain in the ***.