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Old Oct 20, 2002 | 06:39 PM
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I will most likely be getting a 1990 Civic wagon in a week or so and just had some general questions. It's FWD and a 5speed with 260k miles on her Any way I was mainly wonder if the springs/shocks from other civics will fit, maybe find some springs off a 99-00 Si or something cheap. Also is a ZC swap as easy in the wagon as it is the the other hatchbacks? I searched and read all the relavent posts. Should be a fun project/ beater car.
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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 04:35 AM
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basically everything is the same drivetrain wise on the 2wd's except the rear trailing arms are longer, and the springs are longer on the shock, with a lower spring plate. you can swap regular shocks in the rear and then put lowering springs on them.
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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 01:36 PM
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Any comments on the engine swaps? I'm assuming that since the drivetrain is the same all the wiring and such is as well. I'm kinda looking foward to throwing in a ZC. Any good sites documenting the swap, or somewhere with diagrams or instructions of the wiring that has to be done? Thanks
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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 02:11 PM
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Wow...I don't think I have even seen a 90 civic wagon with FWD...if I didn't know any better I'd say you were a damn lie...but congrats on the car. With it being 4wd....Im guessing the only engine you could put in it would be the ZC because it bolts to the tranny.....b16-b18 etc wouldn't be able to find a 4wd tranny for it. I don't really know how the 4wd works, but I'd rather see something bigger than the zc...seems like a waste of time. Im going to take alook in to these cars, 4wd would be some hot ****.
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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 05:47 PM
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Mine will be FWD as stated in my first post, not 4WD.


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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 05:49 PM
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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 06:15 PM
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there were rt wagons and fwd wagons for sure. i have seen a fwd wagon with a b swap too. i want to find a clean one to build up. already did a rt with zc.
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Old Oct 22, 2002 | 05:01 AM
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any d'series from 88 up will bolt in, just like any other 88-91 civic. if it were 4wd, you'd have to make sure the three holes ont eh back of the block were drilled and tapped for the axle stubshaft. thats it.
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Old Oct 25, 2002 | 10:49 AM
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OK so just to be sure before I spend some money, I can use lowering springs for a regular Civic Hatchback, if I use the rear shocks off the hatchback. So are the front shocks the same for both cars. I'm wondering because I was roaming at tirerack.com and even for the front shocks it said all models except wagons. Thanks, Ryan
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Old Oct 25, 2002 | 06:53 PM
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Old Oct 26, 2002 | 06:30 AM
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Old Oct 26, 2002 | 08:26 PM
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Old Oct 27, 2002 | 09:45 AM
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the wagon shocks are the same dimension-wise as far as i've measured. spring perch in same location, etc.
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Old Oct 27, 2002 | 01:33 PM
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Sorry to seem repetitive but I just want to make sure I have this correct. The front suspension, shocks and springs, on the Wagon and the hatchback are the same, but the rear is different, the Wagon haveing a lowere spring perch and therefore a longer rear springs. So I can use aftermarket parts designed for the hatchback all around. Thanks a lot, Ryan, who hopes to have some pics of the Wagon up soon
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 02:34 AM
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 05:41 PM
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 02:51 AM
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 10:59 AM
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Old Oct 30, 2002 | 05:39 PM
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Old Oct 30, 2002 | 05:45 PM
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basically the FWD wagons 88-91 are pretty much the same as their HB counterparts and CRX's as well. Suspension from any HB or CRX will fit, springs/coilovers from 88-00 Civics will fit as well. F
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 02:37 AM
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Alright, thanks man
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 03:14 PM
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Front and rear shocks will work from civic.
Lowering springs or coilovers can also be used ffrom civics but you need to swap the rear shocks out with civic shocks.

I would suggest using springs with the same rates as the integra considering the weight difference.
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 04:11 PM
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Good point, thanks man, do you know what year integra springs will fit?
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