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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 04:55 PM
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Okay I know the best way to lower a car with comfort are coilovers but I can't afford that right now so don't bother telling me that. I just need to lower a bit using stock shocks to get rid of the 4x4 look for now. I'm running on SI wheels with 205/50/15 tires.

Now what's a good comfortable lowering springs with a good drop?
tein, skunk2, megan and etc.

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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 07:47 PM
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Comfort is subjective but any OTS spring will be fine as long as the spring rates aren't excessive.

You'll be fine with Skunk2,Tein,Eibach, H&R ect.

But consider this, lowering springs are going to cost around $300. I'd rather save a little more for a good coilover setup. A basic Koni/Ground Control can be had for about $800. Yes, that's $500 more but worth it in the long run.

Also, I suggested coilovers against your statement not to but hey at least I didn't just say "go search."

I did the cheap way first and then did it right. In the long run I wasted money.
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 09:03 PM
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Comfort is subjective but any OTS spring will be fine as long as the spring rates aren't excessive.

You'll be fine with Skunk2,Tein,Eibach, H&R ect.

But consider this, lowering springs are going to cost around $300. I'd rather save a little more for a good coilover setup. A basic Koni/Ground Control can be had for about $800. Yes, that's $500 more but worth it in the long run.

Also, I suggested coilovers against your statement not to but hey at least I didn't just say "go search."

I did the cheap way first and then did it right. In the long run I wasted money.
What are good spring rates?

I was thinking of Skunk2 or Tein S tech.. Skunk2 has more of a drop, about 2-2.5. Idk if thats bad for stock shocks.. Tein S tech is around 1.5-1.8.

And actually the springs like skunk2, tein or megan are all below 200. So yeah, by the time I get coilovers, I will waste at least a 100 after selling it to someone. Gotta lose some because I know for a fact I wont be able to afford a 600+ coilover setup anytime soon.

Thanks for a legit answer though unlike those trolling people.
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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 12:35 PM
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What are good spring rates?

I was thinking of Skunk2 or Tein S tech.. Skunk2 has more of a drop, about 2-2.5. Idk if thats bad for stock shocks.. Tein S tech is around 1.5-1.8.

And actually the springs like skunk2, tein or megan are all below 200. So yeah, by the time I get coilovers, I will waste at least a 100 after selling it to someone. Gotta lose some because I know for a fact I wont be able to afford a 600+ coilover setup anytime soon.

Thanks for a legit answer though unlike those trolling people.
The Tein HTech come with 190f/129r rates. That's pretty soft all things considered but with the stock shocks don't expect OEM ride quality.

It might be worth giving Swift a call. I don't have first hand experience with them but I've heard good things.

http://www.swiftsprings.net/

But keep in mind spring rate isn't the primary deciding factor.

This is a good read.

http://www.hrsprings.com/technical/spring-rate-101
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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 02:53 AM
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Default Re: Lowering Springs for an EG sedan?

Progress springs are another option.
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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Jettplane
Okay I know the best way to lower a car with comfort are coilovers
Wrong. In a nutshell, the lower you get the rougher the ride will become. The lower you get the higher the spring rates will have to be.

The logic that you need to keep "softer" spring rates to keep "comfort" when lowering a car is incorrect. It also doesn't matter if it's adjustable coilovers or lowering springs.
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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by grumblemarc
Wrong.
yep. yet you still have people on here swearing up and down they are slammed with 'stock' ride quality. not possible.
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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mechanix619
The Tein HTech come with 190f/129r rates. That's pretty soft all things considered but with the stock shocks don't expect OEM ride quality.

It might be worth giving Swift a call. I don't have first hand experience with them but I've heard good things.

http://www.swiftsprings.net/

But keep in mind spring rate isn't the primary deciding factor.

This is a good read.

http://www.hrsprings.com/technical/spring-rate-101
I think Im gonna go for Tein S Techs. Read a lot of good things about them too.
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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by grumblemarc
Wrong. In a nutshell, the lower you get the rougher the ride will become. The lower you get the higher the spring rates will have to be.

The logic that you need to keep "softer" spring rates to keep "comfort" when lowering a car is incorrect. It also doesn't matter if it's adjustable coilovers or lowering springs.
I agree. I didn't really mean super comfortable like OEM. I was generally talking about comfort as in not too bouncy or too stiff.
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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by alphalanos
yep. yet you still have people on here swearing up and down they are slammed with 'stock' ride quality. not possible.
Basically.

Most of these guys are either too stupid to understand it, or have never ridden in a car with a proper suspension setup.


OP I would say take a look at the Eibach sport line, or H&R lowering springs first.
The S tech's are just too damn soft for the amount they lower the car.
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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 98civdx
Basically.

Most of these guys are either too stupid to understand it, or have never ridden in a car with a proper suspension setup.


OP I would say take a look at the Eibach sport line, or H&R lowering springs first.
The S tech's are just too damn soft for the amount they lower the car.
Oh alright. I'll put those into consideration. Thanks.
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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Jettplane
I agree. I didn't really mean super comfortable like OEM. I was generally talking about comfort as in not too bouncy or too stiff.
Still wrong.
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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 09:39 AM
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