Switch from full b18c1to a b20 block with b18c head
ok, recently i have been gettin impatient saving for a turbo set-up that i wanted to do and with this summer steadily approaching and the weather being crazy warm out here(NY) i have decided to switch plans and go with a nitrous set-up hopefully by honda day this year(atco)
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Currently i have a JDM b18c1 swapped in my EK tuned on hondata S300. Since i have decided to go NA/nitrous i have decided to swap out my b18c1 block for a b20 block mated to my b18c1 head.
I plan on doing the CNCwerx CSS to the block because its cheap, its added piece of mind, and i achieve 2.0L. I plan on running a forged piston/rod combo on this block. Probably something around 11.5-12.0 cp.
i have a few basic question regrading swapping out the b20 block. First off i wanted to confirm that i can run all the current sensors on my b18c1 and swap them over to my b20 with no problem. Also since it is a JDM b18c1 should i also go with a JDM b20? Im under the impression that the JDM blocks dont have a crank flux sensor(i think) compared to USDM so would it be easier to stick with JDM?
Regrading the cranks im under the impression that there is no difference between a b18b crank and a b20 crank? so deciding which to run doesnt really matter, correct?
I have more questions but for now ill cut it off with some basic stuff i was unsure and wanted to get out of the way.
Thanks for any help given.
.Currently i have a JDM b18c1 swapped in my EK tuned on hondata S300. Since i have decided to go NA/nitrous i have decided to swap out my b18c1 block for a b20 block mated to my b18c1 head.
I plan on doing the CNCwerx CSS to the block because its cheap, its added piece of mind, and i achieve 2.0L. I plan on running a forged piston/rod combo on this block. Probably something around 11.5-12.0 cp.
i have a few basic question regrading swapping out the b20 block. First off i wanted to confirm that i can run all the current sensors on my b18c1 and swap them over to my b20 with no problem. Also since it is a JDM b18c1 should i also go with a JDM b20? Im under the impression that the JDM blocks dont have a crank flux sensor(i think) compared to USDM so would it be easier to stick with JDM?
Regrading the cranks im under the impression that there is no difference between a b18b crank and a b20 crank? so deciding which to run doesnt really matter, correct?
I have more questions but for now ill cut it off with some basic stuff i was unsure and wanted to get out of the way.
Thanks for any help given.
I have been looking at rod pistons combos. im think of going with BC rods with CP pistons. Not sure on part # for pistons yet but was considering these for the rods
BC6057 vs BC6019 to my understanding same rod except the 6057 is a "lightweight" version. Any reason not to go with the lighter weight rods? They are the same price and figured lighter is better so why not. Any opinions?
BC6057 vs BC6019 to my understanding same rod except the 6057 is a "lightweight" version. Any reason not to go with the lighter weight rods? They are the same price and figured lighter is better so why not. Any opinions?
If you use lighter rods, make sure to get everything balanced.
heres a thread you should look at.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/all-motor-naturally-aspirated-44/how-build-%22reliable%22-lsvtec-b20vtec-1676914/
heres a thread you should look at.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/all-motor-naturally-aspirated-44/how-build-%22reliable%22-lsvtec-b20vtec-1676914/
The crank fluctuation sensor CKF, mounted to the oil pump, isn't there on the JDM. No worries, just stick with the bypass - or whatever you're using now if you're already JDM.
I think the B18C block has a knock sensor, and don't know that the B20 does... you can find alternative means to mount one - it's been done.
The rest of the sensors mount to the head or other bolt-ons (e.g. Dist, etc).
Mark
I think the B18C block has a knock sensor, and don't know that the B20 does... you can find alternative means to mount one - it's been done.
The rest of the sensors mount to the head or other bolt-ons (e.g. Dist, etc).
Mark
The CFK sensor is fine if it's there (USDM). It doesn't have to be hooked up or it can be removed. Only held on by one 10mm bolt.
If you use lighter rods, make sure to get everything balanced.
heres a thread you should look at.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1676914
heres a thread you should look at.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1676914
The crank fluctuation sensor CKF, mounted to the oil pump, isn't there on the JDM. No worries, just stick with the bypass - or whatever you're using now if you're already JDM.
I think the B18C block has a knock sensor, and don't know that the B20 does... you can find alternative means to mount one - it's been done.
The rest of the sensors mount to the head or other bolt-ons (e.g. Dist, etc).
Mark
I think the B18C block has a knock sensor, and don't know that the B20 does... you can find alternative means to mount one - it's been done.
The rest of the sensors mount to the head or other bolt-ons (e.g. Dist, etc).
Mark
Also there is a short block for sale that i am currently interested in, it is a USDM 1999 B20z block. So to my understanding since its a 99 its the higher compression(9.6:1) which DOES come with a factory knock sensor. Can any1 confirm this please? Also is the plug style the same as my current knock sensor (b18c1)?
Also ive never bought a block before, and im kind of unsure of what to look for as far as potential problems. Crank will be reused but new everything else so its mostly the condition of the block itself and the crank that im going for. Any pointers?
Also the short block is complete so i get to tear it down
which i never done before. So at least i get to do it on parts that i will not being using lol and i get to learn something. Will prob have some1 assemble it though for my piece of mind lol.

Be prepared to fix internal issues as you find them (e.g. set aside money assuming you'll have to do normal rebuild shop work: honing, pistons, rings, bearings, gaskets, sealers.. find a good shop with experience and reputation for doing excellent work on imports in general and Honda/Acura in particular. Don't know who that is these days but RS Machines used to be one such shop. The sleeved my block and those bores were within a tenth of a thousandth all the way down - nicely done.[\QUOTE]
Good luck! Have fun.
Mark
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in case you guys were wondering i bought a USDM 97 long block b20 that i have started to tear down and get ready for machine work.
thanks for all your help guys. if i have any questions with my partlist i will make a new thread. thanks again.
thanks for all your help guys. if i have any questions with my partlist i will make a new thread. thanks again.
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