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Old Dec 20, 2012 | 02:08 PM
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I replaced a valve on my wife's 01 crv. everything went great, I replaced the timing belt and water pump. got everything timed in all the marks line up as they should. I get everything back together and. It will not start. I have spark at all the plugs and it sounds like it wants to but it just wont. The car drove into the garage. and everything is plugged in and all connections are tight.

Spark is nice a bright white/blue in color

I'm stumped here. I have been around Honda's for a few years and i cant figure it out? I thinking that it could be the dizzy but it drove in before we tore it apart


I need to get this thing going ASAP!! HELP ME OUT!!!

Its an 01 CRV 193k 5 spd 4wd all factory maintenance records from day 1

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-Mike

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Old Dec 20, 2012 | 03:42 PM
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I'm leaning more on a timing issue..either valve timing(most likely),or ignition timing.
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Old Dec 20, 2012 | 04:03 PM
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its not the dizzy if you have spark....more than likely fuel or a connector is on the wrong connection. I know the TPS and something else are close enough that you can mix them up and they have the same connector. Cant remember what it is off hand.
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Old Dec 20, 2012 | 04:59 PM
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check your compression....

check all the connectors you unplugged..
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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 01:40 AM
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Firing order. 100 percent sure
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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 12:31 PM
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Timing is dead on to the marks. I mean dead on.

Firing order is right.. 1342
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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 02:58 PM
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Timing is dead on to the marks. I mean dead on.

Firing order is right.. 1342
You know cyl 1 is closest to the drivers side, right?
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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 08:47 PM
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yes...
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 04:11 AM
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You need to adjust your valves sir.

Post compression numbers
It is highly unlikely that it is your dizzy,being that it was working fine before the build.
It is more likely a timing issue.

I went through the same thing on my b18a/b hybrid build,wanting to start and everything.I bet you get sputtering and maybe even slight backfiring..
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 05:15 AM
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We adjusted the valves and there are all in spec. I only had adjust 3 or 4 of them and even then they were still in just alittle the low side on clearance.

I guess ill pull the timing belt back off and check the marks again...

No backfiring. but it does sputter like it wants to start but just wont take off
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 06:25 AM
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We adjusted the valves and there are all in spec. I only had adjust 3 or 4 of them and even then they were still in just alittle the low side on clearance.

I guess ill pull the timing belt back off and check the marks again...

No backfiring. but it does sputter like it wants to start but just wont take off
You can check compression to verify if the timing is off.

Just wondering,I'm sure you got the lower crank lined up,but are you certain that the cams are lined up exactly how they're supposed to?if its even a tooth off I wouldn't expect it to start..
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 06:43 AM
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i still think its a fuel issue. check fuel pressure.
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 08:23 AM
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i still think its a fuel issue. check fuel pressure.
Well if he has spark,that means the main relay is priming the fuel pump.at least it should.
With that being said,its highly unlikely that his fuel pump took a dump when he says that he drove into the garage just fine.

If anything,just loosen the fuel filter line going to the fuel rail,and make sure you have fuel squirting upon cranking.even if the fuel was barely coming out of the injectors,it would still start,but then possibly die out..
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Old Dec 22, 2012 | 03:42 PM
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Injector plugs are not in order or not fully plugged in. Pull codes and it should tell u what cylinders
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Old Dec 23, 2012 | 06:19 AM
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The TPS and Map sensor connectors are mostlikely reversed. The Map has 3 wires (red/green, yellow/red,green/white) TPS has 3 wires (red/black, green/black, and yellow/blue.

Make sure they are in the right spot.


Hope that helps. Let me know if it worked out.
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Old Dec 23, 2012 | 06:38 PM
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I can smell fuel when i crank it for a long time. plugs are wet.

Ill check to make sure that all the plugs for the injectors are in the right order even tho i dont think we pulled them out.

And ill check the MAP and TPS sensor connectors

Yes im about 99.9999% sure on the came location for timing


will post an update tomorrow
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Old Dec 23, 2012 | 09:16 PM
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I can smell fuel when i crank it for a long time. plugs are wet.

Ill check to make sure that all the plugs for the injectors are in the right order even tho i dont think we pulled them out.

And ill check the MAP and TPS sensor connectors

Yes im about 99.9999% sure on the came location for timing


will post an update tomorrow

So the plugs are wet but you have spark????
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Old Dec 24, 2012 | 06:08 AM
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Old Dec 24, 2012 | 06:37 AM
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have you check your compression?
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Old Dec 25, 2012 | 02:02 PM
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You do have the crankshaft set correct right? rotate, line up the crank time mark, and ensure that cylinder #1, and #4 are at TDC, then check that your cam gears are lined up to the UP position -(UP)- -(UP)-, if your cylinders are flooded, remove your sparkplugs, and rotate your crank to remove excess fuel. Cranking with flooded cylinders can hydrolock your engine, and may even bend a rod. Also remove the dizzy cap and ensure that rotor is pointing at cylinder #1 while everthing is alingned at tdc.
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Old Dec 30, 2012 | 10:48 AM
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Old Jan 2, 2013 | 03:00 AM
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It was wrong firing order.
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Old Jan 4, 2013 | 03:57 PM
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No luck yet firing order is right.

Out working on it currently. If anyone thinks they can help you can pm me and I'll give you my cell phone number.

Timing is right checked it yet again. And firing order is right
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Old Jan 4, 2013 | 04:27 PM
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Just tried starting it and it tried to take off but died very quickly. Tried to crank it again and nothin just cranks.

Fuel issue?

Car has been sitting for about a week and half now.
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Old Jan 4, 2013 | 07:02 PM
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check your ground on the engine harness...
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