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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 03:18 PM
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Alright I recently purchased a b16a I already have a b18c1 .....I wanna spend around $500 ....things I have on the gsr are the normal bolt ons, I,h,e. with the racing I do I run from 3500 to 5700 is my peak. I wanna be able to turn around 8500 without worrying at all. My gsr is about 30psi down on compression and smokes anything over 7k. Let me know what I should do....should I just build it stock or mix and match engine parts? Lmk plz
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 03:23 PM
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explain "build it stock" and "mix n match"
Your run of the mill I/H/E will bolt right up to your B16A, and with a stock ecu...redline is at 8200RPM and you can "turn" that all day.
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 05:08 PM
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Like Oem stock internals.....pistons cams ect...didn't know if I'd be better off with mixin cranks or whatever. I want as much power as possible on my tiny budget.
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by daytonagp4
Like Oem stock internals.....pistons cams ect...didn't know if I'd be better off with mixin cranks or whatever. I want as much power as possible on my tiny budget.


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dont we all!

If it were easy to do this, we all would be doing it.
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Old Nov 15, 2012 | 12:32 PM
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just sell everything and stop "racing".
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Old Nov 15, 2012 | 12:51 PM
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just sell everything and stop "racing".
what do you have against racing... if he wants to go to the track and **** out his car and have fun, why would you have anything against that?

so you have a stock b16a long block in good running condition and a gsr with bad rings?
and all you wanna spend is 500 bucks?

sell the gsr "with bad rings" put in the b16 and use the money you got from selling the gsr and the 500 to buy cams and a tune. prolly your best option. or sell both motors and buy another used gsr motor.
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Old Nov 15, 2012 | 02:57 PM
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what do you have against racing... if he wants to go to the track and **** out his car and have fun, why would you have anything against that?

so you have a stock b16a long block in good running condition and a gsr with bad rings?
and all you wanna spend is 500 bucks?

sell the gsr "with bad rings" put in the b16 and use the money you got from selling the gsr and the 500 to buy cams and a tune. prolly your best option. or sell both motors and buy another used gsr motor.
Instead of cams and a tune...invest in an LSD and a 4.9 Final drive. It will be a night and day difference.
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Old Nov 17, 2012 | 05:02 AM
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I'd suggest taking the 500 bucks and getting a new set of rings for the GSR and have a machine shop check out the valveguides to get it back to stockish performance no smoking. Rings can go for like 120 and a new head gasket is like 65.
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Old Nov 17, 2012 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by angryhillbilly
what do you have against racing... if he wants to go to the track and **** out his car and have fun, why would you have anything against that?

so you have a stock b16a long block in good running condition and a gsr with bad rings?
and all you wanna spend is 500 bucks?

sell the gsr "with bad rings" put in the b16 and use the money you got from selling the gsr and the 500 to buy cams and a tune. prolly your best option. or sell both motors and buy another used gsr motor.
dont assume hes tracking the car... im assuming hes street racing. thats what im going off of. and i was just trolling :]
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Old Nov 30, 2012 | 07:41 PM
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dont assume hes tracking the car... im assuming hes street racing. thats what im going off of. and i was just trolling :]
He's tracking the car......3//8 oval track....and my budget is around $1000 i was just trying to save but i got a good sponsor.

Another problem....we may not be able to run vtec .....now what do i do lmao
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Old Nov 30, 2012 | 10:20 PM
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Use the b16 while you rebuild the gsr then sell the B16. If you can't run vtec get some vtec killer cams.
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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 12:30 AM
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Why wouldnt you be able to run vtec? Racing class rules? You need to be more specific. If you cant use a vtec motor then dont use a vtec motor lol. Sell all your motors and go buy a b20.
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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 11:13 AM
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Rules are not out yet.....to much speculation on what's going to happen. I'm just trying to view all options.
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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by daytonagp4
He's tracking the car......3//8 oval track....and my budget is around $1000 i was just trying to save but i got a good sponsor.

Another problem....we may not be able to run vtec .....now what do i do lmao
im jelly.

currently working on my integra to get it ready for willow springs :[ taking a while.
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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 02:44 PM
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I'm just curious what everyone would think is the best engine bang for buck is. Vtec and NON. Our tech down here in the south "like dem v8's an no dang 4 poppers" so i can slide though with a few things but nothing obvious like adjustable cam gears and big ol' header sticking out. Let's just start this over.......what engine/trans would you buy for 1000 bucks?
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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 03:21 PM
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It really depends on the rules. I have heard of people dirt oval racing Hondas and it has to be stock other than some simple bolt ons. If that's the case, we need to know what car you have.

On the off chance you can swap anything within the brand, I would run a B20 with LS intake manifold and maybe reground cams. They will appear stock since they will be. No need to complicate a car like that with vtec. You are going to want torque anyway. Put some arp rod bolts in it and it will spin 7k all day long.
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 04:25 AM
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how much power would that be? Considering i'm racing a couple guys with H22's i'd need to be up around 190ish to be competitive
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 04:35 AM
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Then run an H22. Lol. There is a way to bolt an H22 to a B tranny. It's not the nicest looking thing, but would be a perfect budget solution to your problem
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 11:17 AM
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yeah but that's pretty obvious that engine don't belong there isn't it.....atleast doing all the b series swaps there are integras with b's in them.
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 11:23 AM
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Is everyone else driving preludes? Those cars are tanks compared to civics. You should be fine with a B20. Maybe some reground cams *wink wink* lol
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 12:28 PM
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Kinda what i was thinking, if they allow vtec then i'm just going with a stock b18c1 maybe a little port and polish and new cams. Sound good?
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 02:23 PM
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If people are running H22's then they allow vtec.
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Old Dec 3, 2012 | 03:52 PM
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rules have not been released yet, as i said they MAY not allow vtec the H22 guys will have to change too. I'm just trying to get a jump on what to do.
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Old Dec 3, 2012 | 05:37 PM
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The B16 intake can be a good choice for B20 with cams and looks stock. Slight modification to put it on but you wouldn't even notice.


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Old Dec 4, 2012 | 12:32 PM
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Why not wait for the rules, than you can start viewing the options. All this speculation does absolutely nothing for you...
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