have to start threads to be a member so i know this has been talked about 100's of time sorry about that just want to know what you guys think in regards to these bushings good or bad to stiff alternatives to keeping bushing on your ride from bein destroyed from the slammed affect. thank you guys

 

Energy is what I have, been happy with them so far. 94

 

I had them for about a year, was a good upgrade...

 

ES suspension bushings? Really? I had always heard that the ride was too harsh for daily driving. I have ES motor mount inserts and really like them but I don't think I'm hard core enough to use them in my suspension.

 

Anyone know the Energy bushing size for the rear lower control arm(after market) bushings for the strut bolt?

 

The biggest complaints that I heard concern squeaking and early wear. If you have them installed, inspect them often for oblong holes.

Yes they do. I do not recall the p/n. Search for rear shock bushings on their site.

 

I autocross, so I do what I can with the suspension, but your right, if your looking for a "soft" riding DD, ES is probably not for you.

Also as mentioned, the maintenance curve goes up, I have had my ES on my 94 for more then 7 years, they are all still in good shape, but I do spend time making sure things are clean and nuts/bolts are tightened to speck. 94

 

i did hear about the squeeking, but the early wear? i thought those would be way better than oem. my car is slammed and over the years i have just seen wear on my bushings and ball joints tie rods and im looking for an alternative to have a stiff ride with no slushy feeling. i like a stiff suspension. other passangers i really can care less my car my way. i just think polyurethane would be a better alternative to slushy rubber and cracking and tire wear more money i would love to deal with squeek and stiff than sloppy and tire wear more money!!!

 

7 years and I have no "squeaking", but as I said I do keep things clean/lubed/tight.94

 

I have poly bushings on my rear sway bar and I do have the problem with the squeek.

I need to take my rear end apart and grease it all back up.

 

Did you have a shop press them in or did you just do them yourself? I'm thinking about getting some for my gsr as well.

 

The lube is absolutely critical. People who experience squeaking are experiencing wear every time they squeak.

 

You have to have the old ones pressed out but the new ones go in by hand.

 

I burned the old ones out and then split the sleeves with a hack saw for easier removal. It is a PITA, especially when bolts break or seize to the inner sleeve.

 

^ from reading up on removing the oem bushings, that seems to be the way to go in order to get the metal sleeves out.

 

Anyone have tips on installing these bushings. everyone has said improper installations are the main reason they fail. I remeber something about the wieght of the chassis needs on the bushings but unsure of how to do so... any advice is greatly appreciated

 

Sorry to thread jack but I got a seized bolt in my rear LCA. The one that connects the shock to the LCA. I'm assuming I'd have to use a sawzall or a grinder to get that sucker out. Any other ideas?

Tried an impact and breaker bar already. The rubber bushing is not letting go of that darn bolt.

 

^^^ I had to cut a few off in the past.^^^

 

Does anyone have experiance with red vrs black bushings from ES?

I'm favouring the black bushings as they are quieter and more oem ride without the sqeeking issues.

 

What did you use to cut the bolt out?

 

couple problem bushings in the kit. one of the front lower control arm. they last about 40k miles before they get sloppy enough you pull the tire in and out when jacked up. easy enough to change though. the second is the shifter bushings. i'm not sure why but guys gripe about these. personally i left mine stock and just changed everything else back when i had one of these cars.

 

Sawzall or an angle grinder.

I'd avoid their RTA bushings as well. That area sees come complicated motion.

 

i wouldn't blame a person

what the RTA bushings seem to do at first is increase spring rate. i mean if you bomb hard enough, they do indeed flex, you just have added progressive springs to the mix

it's when they age problems set in. like the fronts they get sloppy around 40k miles. whole design is kind of shitty. you have to grind off your old RTA's and then reuse the metal rod. well, guess what, that rod will be a bit rough from all the grinding you just did. push that through poly and you have created a wear item

hard rubber would probably be the best long term solution, mugen or OE itr. i'm personally not a big hardrace fan. i'm just anti china with parts. rubber is more difficult to install and requires clocking. still, if you plan on keeping the car awhile you'll be money ahead doing the front control arms and RTA's in oem or mugen bushings.

energy wasn't bad elsewhere. rear end held up with over 60k and had zero slop

 

I got the full energy suspension kit installed on my car a few days ago. Its a stock 94 LS. The reason for doing it was because the old bushings were completely worn out and wearing my front tires quickly. I also had bad axles. I put in brand new axles and changed the tranny fluid. Then I replaced the inner and outer tie rod ends with ES boots. I replaced all the control arm bushings and the shock mount bushings. Then I put in brand new ball joints with ES boots. I did the ES motor mount inserts with new mounts. Then I did the swaybar end links and bushings. Got it aligned and Man this car drives TOTALLY different now. It feels like its on rails compared to before even with the stock LS springs and shocks. The ride is great and I have no complaints about anything