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Old Nov 10, 2012 | 06:18 PM
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Default 98 civic fourdoor power doors conversion problem!!

ok guys iv done plenty of reserch on this before i attempted it, even though all the treads about the power doors conversion is either for the coupes and hatches, i have yet to find one for the four door. i assume everythings the same just add two more doors.

I got the conversion from a totaled 98 civic

-all four door panels
-all four window regulators
-all four power lock latches
-all four door harnesses
-floor harness
-3 20amp fuses
-1 relay


I started by gutting the interior. front and back seats, arm rest and center console, seatbelts then the carpet. pulled the floor harness and broke down all the doors. everything went well.

I started the install the same way. layed the floor harness down ran it to each door, door sensor, fuel pump, fusebox, and two plugs on the driver side behind the rear seats i think it goes to the rear light and defroster, oh and the one ground near the fusebox. Then built the doors, everything went in fine and pluged right up.

time for the test and nothing works the only activity im getting is the power locks but only on the driver door...

side notes : i know all four window regulators work,and i didnt have the speakers and mirriors plugged up

any help would be great.
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Old Nov 11, 2012 | 10:46 AM
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Default Re: 98 civic fourdoor power doors conversion problem!!

There will be 4 fuses for the widows, one 20A for each window in under dash fuse box.

There is a 40A fuse for the windows in the engine bay fuse box, [power to window relay]

There is also a 7.5A fues for the window relay control also in the under dash fuse box.

Do you have power at the power window fuses when the ign' switch is turned on?

Can you feel the power window relay "click" when you turn the ign. switch on? 94
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Old Nov 11, 2012 | 11:47 AM
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Default Re: 98 civic fourdoor power doors conversion problem!!

yea power to the fuses and no click from the relay, but i didnt do the 40A fuse in the engine bay or the 7.5A so thats a huge help thanks
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Old Nov 11, 2012 | 01:06 PM
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Default Re: 98 civic fourdoor power doors conversion problem!!

ok so there was already the 40A fuse under the hood (i dont kno why it was already there since its a DX and came with all manual options) all four door fuses are in. The 7.5A fuse i cant get a diagram that shows its location on the fuse box
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Old Nov 12, 2012 | 09:30 AM
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The 40A may power other things, so no surprize it is there, however the 7.5A relay fuse may or may not be there.

If you do not feel the relay "click" on when you turn on the ign. switch, then either your not feeling the "click" or you are testing the wrong fuse(s) for power as it is the power window relay that supplies power to the window fuses, or maybe you have something miswired.

Do this...

Pull the power window relay, use a 12V test light to check for powers at the relay socket pins/terminals.

With the ign. switch off, there should be one (1) pin with power, [supplied by the 40A fuse, hot at all times] this will be terminal #30 or terminal #87.

Turn the ign. switch on and you should find a 2nd pin with power, [supplied by the 7.5A fuse, hot in run and start], this will be terminal #85 or terminal #86.

The last two (2) terminals will be a ground, [at all times] for the relays coil, kittycorner from the switched power of terminal #85 or #86 and the last terminal will go to the four (4) power window fuses.

Confirm the above and get back to me. 94
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 04:07 PM
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Default Re: 98 civic fourdoor power doors conversion problem!!

Should I have changed the fuse box? Everything pulled in
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 06:41 PM
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Default Re: 98 civic fourdoor power doors conversion problem!!

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Old Nov 14, 2012 | 05:13 AM
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Have you checked for powers at the relay socket yet? 94
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Old Nov 14, 2012 | 06:21 AM
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Default Re: 98 civic fourdoor power doors conversion problem!!

Yea I'm hot at the fuse box under the dash and in the bay, but I lose it at the front door no power to nothing
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Old Nov 14, 2012 | 11:39 AM
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Your saying you have both the constant power and the switched power at the relay socket pins, is that correct?

Also, are you saying the power window relay is turning on when you turn on the ign. switch, [no power at the 4 window fuses untill you turn on the ign. switch]? 94
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Old Nov 14, 2012 | 04:58 PM
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Yea I pulled the relay and I'm getting power to the prongs (I'm completely lost when it comes to this stuff) so bare with me on this, I had my buddy take a look at it and he said everything's done right and I have power at the fuse box and the relay socket...but then I use the test light on the driver door and there's nothing
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Old Nov 14, 2012 | 05:01 PM
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Default Re: 98 civic fourdoor power doors conversion problem!!

But at no point does the relay click what so ever. Does this mean anything?
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