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Old Oct 28, 2012 | 07:11 PM
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Sharing this thread on this forum as I know I need to search for more diverse opinions and thoughts. I just been a super long time lurker.
I know some people from other forums that frequent here, so yeahhh.... lol
Car this focuses on- 94 JDM R Front Integra. Originally a SE model. yep with the brizown interior.

Traded a 96 slowbra I blew the engine on a couple times. Recieved as a shell full of parts. full of dust. Sat in dudes garage for a shlong time.

Well I put a b16 swap in it. pulled it out the next day. Went k series- just k20a3/ a2 trans aem, gasket matched rbc, blah blah blah. rolled the dyno at about 185 hp. daily status for 2 years 5 months. I also have a jeep, and a ap2 s2k I drive.
One morning car got hit. I lost interest, tried to sell. Did not sell for a offer I could refuse or close to my asking price. you know the normal, I trade you stock 96 civic and you add cash offers.
So I pulled the k out to go back to b series. Wise man once said, you boost a b you NA a K.
figure I will just for now rebuild a gsr swap, over time build a little boosted b setup. Wife is turbo junky, go back stock let her track it a little and mod from that point.
Pictures of it...
couple days after getting it to the house

eh dont really have much of the k engine bay loaded up, I just drove it and changed the oil every couple months after putting it in.
when it was backed into



when I redid the wire sleeve and tuck this summer.

interior



pulled out the a3

few parts I found on craigslist
bare gsr block, busted gsr trans, busted b16 trans. actually the b16 was given to me as a case and a box of jumbled up parts. I was like okkk well then time to really learn how to mess with these. I have taken apart my other transmissions before just not as a box of parts lol

b16 case cleaned out

b16 together, got some bearings on my rolling parts list.

empty bay

cut a few lines back and such

gsr head that was on the near point of not saving, yo why is it why a honda kid gets a hold of a can of paint nothing is safe.

hydraulic lifters such ballllzzzz

I bought the head, kid said itr valves were in it. I texted him saying where are the itr valves cause they were not in the head. These valves are not salvageable when you can easily find stock ones kicking around friends shops

I let the combustion chambers soak in simple green for a few minutes and pressure washed the head... **** is stuck

couple hours later

little bay work prep

took out the dash, have another one that does not have drilled out areas for gauges

same friend I picked some valves from got a unorthadox underdrive crank pulley

3 gsr rod assemblies

one of my good friends came up from texas to visit put his *** to work. mocked up a empty trans case and empty block to put the frame mount back on

not using a washer reservoir in the bay. closed up the hole just to have the ac drier fit. I lined up the bracket and lines under the oem headlight ballasts

bay worked over some more. welded the firewall holes up, welded up a bunch of things.

have this little storm coming through this week so I **** canned the bare metal. no worries I hit the other areas that are bare. easier to remove a layer of paint then some rust

This aint my first rodeo for a shave, tuck, repaint, easy stuff.
Once the storm passes, I will pull the fox off the slab in the back and roll this back there, pull suspension, all that crap.

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Old Oct 28, 2012 | 08:14 PM
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Looking good so far!
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Old Oct 30, 2012 | 06:58 AM
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picking up some random engine parts today locally.
Got a paypal dispute going on for some dumbass burning up the board of a working aem 1030 and claiming it was bad. puts a hold on ordering parts from friends online.
Storm passed, no damage other then my car covers ripped and flew down the street.
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Old Nov 2, 2012 | 05:48 PM
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started laying the dura glass yesterday, looks like some more wet weather coming in on sunday, going to be at this for a while tomorrow, hopefully get some high build primer laid out.
just a little bit of surface rust came about. dont want to imagine what it would of looked like if I had not primered the bay


now bare with me, I have not played with bondo without friends for a while. so I mixed some up and layed it around some spots

got it sanded down a little, after the gym in the morning going to hit it up some more.

the mess of sheet metal in the corner is coming around I think.

heat gun was used to warm the metal up a little prior to laying on the bondo. from what I read the other day the metal should be about average room temparture for even and correct hardening and adhesion.
I also used it to continually allow slight heat to the drying process once bondo was laid down.
not crazy like BURN ****** FLUCKER BURN about a foot or so away maybe even more, just a nice even heat.
Finished up filling in some more holes, think I missed on one the shock tower though. was really anxious to get to smoothing out the bay. normal me, trying to rush s***.
going to drill out the rivets for the jdm plate, get a dc2 one from a friend I hope he has some laying around he can ship to me. He imports parts to the dominican.
case you forgot what that corner looked like before.

have valves soaking to remove the carbon build up.
got a deal lined up for some gsr rods with c5 pistons arp rod bolts. didnt want to split up one rod, so bought the set for the same price as a new oem c1 piston. and the c5 pistons are oem from what I was told, which is exactly what I wanted.
Went by justins house and got the water pump line and thermostat housing, hopefully its the correct one. We both were like ummm.... I think it is gsr. lol

Now I wanted to spray primer on the bay before I laid down the bondo but moving the other cars around by myself just was not going to fit in my want to do list right now. plus if I missed a hole I could tack it closed quicker then if it was already primed. I know it would happen.

little more smoothing out done.

really liking how the front frame is starting to come out.

started getting to almost sunset, time to eat and my drill battery died over when I started getting to this.
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Old Nov 5, 2012 | 03:03 PM
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Got quite a bit finished up today.
filled in the indentations of the firewall primarily, did some more shaping on the frame, and shocktower.
Bought a harbor freight palm sander, 220, 320, 500, and 1k grit sand paper.
smoothed out most of the bay, and finished with **** can filler primer.
I have 3 spots to still feather out before I can say its ready for prime and paint. *crossing fingers* tomorrow maybe the day.
I am still not sure if I want to brake tuck it. Just so much freaking work to do that. I did it in my hatch, dont really care, guess it gives me something to do if I change the bay again.

Dropped the short block off at the machine shop- bore, hone to oversized pistons. Clean the block, clean main caps, micro polish and mic the crank.
I checked the ring gap with stock piston rings and had a .036 gap. service limits are .020- .030 or .035 cant remember. Block mic'd at 80.94 average on the sleeves. so that was where the ring gap was coming from.
Checked the block deck level and did not notice before the sleeves for 1-2 junction had some signs of previous head gasket failure. Deck the block and call it good. I always do it anyways to be safe. So many head gasket jobs I have done in the past gets me very cautious.
Once I get the measurements from the machine shop I will be ordering my rings and bearings.
I will also be ordering new oem mains bolts. Reusing bolts in a engine rotating assembly creep me out.

Well on to the pics... not a lot of them.












valves I been letting soak... intakes salvageable, exhausts... hell no.


oversized .25 p73 jdm type r pistons on gsr rods with arp rod bolts

about it.
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Old Nov 6, 2012 | 06:32 PM
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going to be a sick build prop
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Old Nov 8, 2012 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by greddy1387
going to be a sick build prop
Thanks, just backyard build, nothing fancy.

ahhh yeah butch dikes!!!!
Very nice weather today, little bit of wind but it works in my favor
2k urethane build primer, its sandable and fills in slight blemishes one may have overseen during prep work.
I honestly like trans star ez sand primer more for the perfectionist. When I spray trans star it comes out with a ruffle to it feather sand out the ruffles and your base coat lays like glass.
BUT What I like about the high build is if your like I was today and said f a lot of that crap after a few minutes. It works great.
I picked up the paint a couple days ago. I went there just wanting stock clover green or whatever the hell the 94 SE integra color is. Then I was there at the store. Normal thought, crap what do I want...
medium gray it was.

Pics!
High build primer


got the 5.slow chillin in the background lol

Base coat



Clear coat, used a norma build clear, not a high solid. 1 light coat, 2 wet coats, and 1 touch up light coat. I have a few runs normal spot for me by the ac drain line. I dont know why I always freakin have a run there.


YOLO!!!



To answer a question or a critic before it comes about, yes. I did completely forget about the hood prop holder plastic till after I layed the base coat and had non left.
I feel like an idiot for it, but wont be the last time I did into the bay.
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Old Nov 8, 2012 | 02:43 PM
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Bay looks great!!

Covering all holes like a pimp
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 01:06 AM
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Wow so much props. I love being outside and all but Doing everything outdoors is a biatch!!! More please .. Especially if you're going to brake tuck
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 05:16 AM
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Thanks Jonny, you know how we got to do these hoes :p

Thanks Chris, I have done one build in a garage. Guess after dealing with things outside for many years professionally or hobby wise, I am use to working without cover.
I do not plan on brake tucking it. I have no want to spend that kind of time.
A cleaned up proportioning valve, and cleaned up lines do it enough for me.
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 10:56 AM
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bay looks fiya
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Old Nov 10, 2012 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by flatblack-h22
bay looks fiya
Thanks man, really appreciate it. I am in love with my integra again.

Picked up some new to me non hid itr black housing headlights this morning from a friend. The favors I owe him just keep racking up. All good, he has always been cool to me.
I ended up sanding the clear back down in areas of the bay due to imperfections, and reclearing it.
The Firewall structual support bends had damn near no clear on the bottom of them, the shock towers had runs, just was not good enough for me. Even though I continue to state this will not be the last time I play with it.
The bends still have the stud bases, the shock towers are not completely smoothed on the inside, etc etc.

The brake booster and master cylinder what I figured out is from a ex. I layed it next to my 1" 96 r booster and master cylinder. I said, whoa, hold the phone. that booster is smaller then the r one.
Another friend of mine said to stick with the 15/16 and even try find a smaller one if I will be tracking it. We had a discussion about the different master cylinders in previous years.
Still debating. Need to ask him what he thinks about using a s2k booster/ master cylinder true 1" inside bore on my setup. Or do what I been saying let the wife figure out what she wants and adjust to her play time opinions.

Radiator un modified back to stock upper I mocked up along with the ac condensor and lines.
That is where the non hid lights came into thought. I mis estimated the lines clearance. If I remove the blue cap off the high quick disconnect I can make it fit... but dealing with refrigerant systems for a few years I know that is not a good idea.
I need a new line anyways for the one that normally sits on the front of the radiator to tuck it else where. Probably braze up a new line for the high side as well. I been a certified welder/ brazer for coming on 3 years, done more then a couple refrigerant systems. Not hard, and place up the street from me called hydraulic services has everything parts wise, and tool wise to crimp the lines required.
blah blah blah, been drinking so ***** freaking pics!




sanded re cleared






zip ties are for temporary use to line up hold down brackets, going different then what my boy and I were thinking about previously.

God I love new paint. its such a dov (depth of view) for the paint.
slim fan on the front of the condensor. just another thing to be out of the bay. probably get another one for the other side. Just need to measure out the size and do some searching.


I do realize my hid head light needs a lot more attention. daily status FML!
top is oem hid r, bottom is non oem hid r.
I never seen the difference.


before


after


how the non hid headlight fits oem hid ftw, eventually


line on and no headlight. I dont have enough hands, guess I could use my big white snake, but then again photobucket deleted a picture of me shirtless taking a picture of my window molding. To sexy for photobucket


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Old Nov 12, 2012 | 02:18 PM
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didnt do to much to it this afternoon.
moved my fox off the slab, moved my civic, then lost motivation to move the integra on the slab.
Just drilled the 1 1/4" hole for the engine harness after removing the srs box platform.
unsleeved the ac harness.
put the heater core box back in.
sleeved the wires for the headlights and routed them through the crush rails.
Still pretty ugly looking. I used split loom sleeving, but it just does not look perfect.
decided on getting rid of the stock integra master cylinder, and getting a new booster and s2k master cylinder.
Not because omg its a .0009944757585" (not specific randomly typed numbers on the keyboard) larger bore then a 1" integra master cylinder. I am ordering a new one and why not.
I will also be ordering a s2k cmc for it.
parts list getting bigger. FMW (f my wallet)
Go register for classes tomorrow.

broke out the little d3100 nikon for some pictures



oh the things one notices when a decent camera is used.... LOL






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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 01:19 PM
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got my block back today. $205 for a block clean- glass media blasted, bore/hone, deck, and crank polish.
called up top dead center, told them to get my bearings, rings, pistons, head gasket and head studs on order.
I been to back and forth with what to get. so just gave the measurments, and said call me when you have the total.
Cleaned up the r cluster then seen a s2k cluster for sale I wouldnt mind having for my s, So I put the r one off the side. Dont have any friends or contacts looking for one that I know of.



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That block is minty! Nice work so far!


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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 09:10 AM
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That block is minty! Nice work so far!


Steve
Thanks Steve, I been lurking your thread a little. No matter what K series is where my heart lies.

Now forgive me for not updating as I went, I just copied and pasted from another thread of mine. Just a couple days behind, least its not like a jumbled up 12 week back date of info, lol

crank ends up to be a ls crank.
Good thing I ended up not ordering my bearings.

how to identify. since I was not aware of identifying a gsr crank till 10 minutes ago.

from honda-tech:
Originally Posted by TheShodan
There are.

There's a small flat plate surface on the journal closest to where the crank pulley is. That marking helps determine which crank it is without going through all the micrometer headache.

B1-B4 = LS or B20 Crank
R= Type R Crank.
6 = B16
7 = GS-R
The crank I got ends up to be a LS crank, I put up a thread on driven for trading my ls crank for a gsr one. Thankfully a local had a minty one he wanted to trade.
Thank god, I was nervous thinking I would end up spending more money and buying one on ebay.


I did not realize the weight difference between a ls and gsr crank either. I picked it up and said woah.... I had to look it over, thought it had been modified, LOL
measures out to be stock sized I think. I have not double checked with the fsm standards yet though.
yes, eventually once my engines are built I can finally finish my flooring. LOL

Well the water pump line ends up to be a LS I think it works. I can figure out something, not sure if I still want to run a oem oil cooler. But I may do a different oil cooler setup. I don't want the oil filter on the back of the engine it always drips oil on the engine when one changes the oil. but we see what finances are like for this part of the car build up.
Come to find out only Honda distributes the 81.25 piston rings. I don't see why I couldn't take 81.5 rings and file fit. Thoughts? I have access to a ring filer thing. yes a legit one.

Rod bearings I want are clevite or however you spell that brand. triple layer. But still debating I am hearing and reading that the bearing are grooved which allow more volume for heat dissipation but create a lower oil pressure through the block. and the un-LSV head hole is making me think to weld the hole and run a oil filter relocation sandwhich plate and run a line to the head. I hate that stupid line. another thing to route and tuck. banjo fitting to a hard line. to keep it nice and tight.

I brought the block and head down stairs last night to start the harness re-route. Got a little more work to do till I am confident it will be decent enough to begin the sleeving.
route in the vtec wires, pretty up the wires, add in an extended charge wire, and route the o2 harness to be closer to the firewall area to drop down behind the subframe.
Only a couple plugs need to be changed. and the alternator wires were cut, no big I have a bunch of plugs and pins laying around.
Till I find a deal on a intake manifold, I just sanded down the stock intake and sprayed it with the little bit of engine paint I had left. I wont be using this on the final end so it was just to make it not fugly.
routed the spark plug wires to behind the dizzy.

In the bay I got my s2k cmc in, I took a die and ran it down the studs and piston so no use of an adapter.
Got my s2k qube cluster in for my ap2. So using my original s2k cluster in the integra. out with the old in with the new.

couple pics of progress.










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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 11:02 PM
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Makes me miss the simplicity of a B Series but I dont regret building this K24 for my Integra it's just taking longer than I anticipated but I will get it together one of these days haha.
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 08:20 AM
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its mechanics, above all a honda. they are all simple kev.
I wouldnt regret putting a k24 in yours either. Nothing happens over night.
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Old Nov 24, 2012 | 02:48 PM
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Looks great chris. Might need ya in a couple weekends for a trans pull :p ya know them favors i might need hahah
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Old Nov 26, 2012 | 05:21 AM
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Looks great chris. Might need ya in a couple weekends for a trans pull :p ya know them favors i might need hahah
Thanks John
Just let me know about the trans.
According to tracking info I shall recieve the piston rings today.
Harness ended up being junk, hacked up before not sure what it originally was for.
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Old Dec 3, 2012 | 02:46 PM
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so I spent the last week or so getting my hatch getting ready for break in, finish up some misc wiring, finish the interior etc.
But I tinkered with the integra last couple days.
Picked up a vis silver carbon fiber lip from John, got my rings in, didnt assemble the engine because I am debating on some other things.
I know as soon as I get going on it I want it assembled ready to drop in shortly after.
The harness I bought ends up to be.... something wack. I put it on the side. I was offered another harness for normal price from a guy. see what happens, another one of the things I am debating of getting more experience with.
set the dash in after the reconnecting the ecu wires again. put my ap2 cluster in to see what it looked like. got to admit it fits a lot better then the civic's ap1.
The wiring for the ac relays I thought I ran out of sleeving. I found it once it got dark outside. I think I am going to move the relays to the pass side fender area behind the headlight and that way only a few wires are strung across to control the pressure switch, compressor, fan, and one other thing I cant remember.
I could also go throught the bottom of the radiator support. I originally had my fan, and headlight wires routed as such in my hatch before going further into the wiring of it.
meh, if I dont like how the vis lip looks I can always sell it in the spring time or paint it with the rest of the car.
for some reason I am having a pain in the *** time uploading to facebook on the computer so just have phone pics




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GOOD WORK....
Thanks

Working a deal for a new setup with a local'ish guy. Maybe doing bay work again.

Recieved a roof skin the other day. it fits odd. would not recommend it for one to get a roof skin in the future. Just wanted to get rid of the sunroof. I dont use it, dont like the look of it. The obvious reason- mad tyte jdm weight savingz 4 more vtak bauce status hitting, LOL.
I will have it painted to match the body. not a fan of carbon fiber hoods, roofs, hatch, doors, fenders, etc etc. I am thinking of spraying the lip with a green tinted clear to just be blended with the body. or trade it or sell it who knows.
Still working on the cabin harness, decided to pull it out, remove the srs associated wiring and resleeve.
just lining it up without adhering to the roof

Far away shot, since I know it looks like **** LOL
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