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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 01:40 PM
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Default 92 lude h23 to h22 swap issues!?!?

Doing a job for a customer: 1992 prelude with h23 swap. He threw a rod and wanted a h22a swap put in it. Got the long block and put it all in. Using the h23 harness and Trans. My questions are map sensor? Use one on fire wall or tb? No spark at all. I am running the h23 dizzy and external coil. No spark. I just need guidance and help. It's frustrating me badly. Please help guys. I just want it running and out my yard so I can get paid lol
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 02:04 PM
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It probably had MAP on firewall, so I would use that.

Are the grounds good, specifically tranny and the one by the VTEC solenoid?
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 02:24 PM
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It probably had MAP on firewall, so I would use that.

Are the grounds good, specifically tranny and the one by the VTEC solenoid?
Ok on the map and the grounds are great. So lost
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by snobordboy
It probably had MAP on firewall, so I would use that.
Agreed, I did the exact same swap in my 92. I ran vtec solenoid and pressure switch wires to p13 ECU, H23 TB and map sensor (tps sensor broken on my h22). Started up right away.

As far as your no spark... Are you sure it's an h22a and not an a4? The a4 has the crank sensor on the crank timing gear instead of in the dizzy like the h23...
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 02:36 PM
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It's a 95 h22a. No crank sensor by pulley. How did u run the external coil
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 02:50 PM
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The 92 h23 harness has the plug for the external coil already there. I used the jdm, dizzy on my swap so i had to jump the connector to provide power to the internal coil. I would have used the h23 dizzy with external coil had it not been throwing a code before I did the swap.
Have you checked your ecu/radio fuse and ground?
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 03:04 PM
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The 92 h23 harness has the plug for the external coil already there. I used the jdm, dizzy on my swap so i had to jump the connector to provide power to the internal coil. I would have used the h23 dizzy with external coil had it not been throwing a code before I did the swap.
Have you checked your ecu/radio fuse and ground?
Where is the ecu/radio fuse and ground? The radio works....
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 03:32 PM
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Under hood fuse panel. What ecu are you running?
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 03:39 PM
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Under hood fuse panel. What ecu are you running?
Fuse and p13 and I tried the p14 and still nothing. Would the ecu stop it from spark
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 03:51 PM
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See if you have crank an cam sensor signal going to the ecu. And double check your dizzy connections.
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 03:53 PM
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Also check the icm output to the coil.
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Default Re: 92 lude h23 to h22 swap issues!?!?

Originally Posted by 95EJ1GSR
Doing a job for a customer: 1992 prelude with h23 swap. He threw a rod and wanted a h22a swap put in it. Got the long block and put it all in. Using the h23 harness and Trans. My questions are map sensor? Use one on fire wall or tb? No spark at all. I am running the h23 dizzy and external coil. No spark. I just need guidance and help. It's frustrating me badly. Please help guys. I just want it running and out my yard so I can get paid lol
You did not specify if this was a H23vtec Bluetop or just an H23a/a1 nonvtec motor.
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 05:09 AM
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You did not specify if this was a H23vtec Bluetop or just an H23a/a1 nonvtec motor.
H23 non vtec
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 02:28 AM
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 11:37 AM
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Is everything I suggested checking good?
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Old Oct 25, 2012 | 10:10 AM
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Default Re: 92 lude h23 to h22 swap issues!?!?

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Is everything I suggested checking good?
How do I test the coil
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Old Oct 25, 2012 | 11:06 AM
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Default Re: 92 lude h23 to h22 swap issues!?!?

Back probe the thin blue wire at the coil connector and use a test light while cranking.
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Old Oct 25, 2012 | 12:01 PM
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Default Re: 92 lude h23 to h22 swap issues!?!?

Originally Posted by yroachy
Back probe the thin blue wire at the coil connector and use a test light while cranking.
Do u have a number I can call u
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Old Oct 25, 2012 | 01:19 PM
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Default Re: 92 lude h23 to h22 swap issues!?!?

Originally Posted by 95EJ1GSR
How do I test the coil
and you are a mechanic professionally or a shadetree mechanic?
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Old Oct 25, 2012 | 04:49 PM
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and you are a mechanic professionally or a shadetree mechanic?
I have a degree in automotive tech and yes I didn't know how to test the coil. Are u here to help me figure this problem out or judge me?!?
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Old Oct 25, 2012 | 09:14 PM
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Default Re: 92 lude h23 to h22 swap issues!?!?

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I have a degree in automotive tech and yes I didn't know how to test the coil. Are u here to help me figure this problem out or judge me?!?
Did you test the coil?
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Old Oct 26, 2012 | 06:12 AM
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Did you test the coil?
Yes good
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Old Oct 26, 2012 | 11:48 AM
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Is it getting the trigger signal on the thin blur wire or did you just ohm it out?
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Old Oct 26, 2012 | 01:35 PM
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Is it getting the trigger signal on the thin blur wire or did you just ohm it out?
Ohm it out
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Old Oct 26, 2012 | 02:33 PM
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Test to see if it is getting the trigger signal on the blue wire at the coil connector. If not your problem is ecu, dizzy, or wiring harness. If it is getting the trigger signal the your problem is cap rotor wires plugs or coil.
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