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Old Oct 16, 2012 | 08:24 PM
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Ok I have a 94 civic dx auto. After much debate I've decided to do the 5spd conversion as well as drop in a b-series.


So far what I'm already ordering is:
Integra linkage with dual bend shifter
Integra manual t-bracket
Clutch master cylinder as well as slave cylinder

Ok this is what I know for sure I need but will have to collect funds:
B-series axles and halfshaft
B-series tranny and motor (b20 or gsr)
Avid b/d mounts with auto conversion mount included
Manual shifter console
Header

Now for things I'm still second guessing:
I kno for any b motor for me to keep a/c I'll need the a/c mount off of del sol vtec. And this will allow me to use my stock compressor correct?
What about power steering? I would like to keep my stock pump.

Ok as far specific motor details:
If I go gsr I'll get a z6 engine harness. Then wire vtec to the ecu. Does the z6 harness come with knock sensor plug? I'll also have to wire in the iab correct even if I get a skunk2 mani?

On the b20 same question applies as far as power steering goes.
Ill be trying the get the high compression one. So I know I have to wire in the knock sensor. And as far as using the ls ecu I hear the motor will run to lean couldn't I just chip the ecu to have b20 maps and not have to worry about running incorrectly?

Ill post a few links to certain parts so people can give me their experience with them etc.

I know I have more questions but I'm falling asleep and can't think straight. Thanks for any input guys.
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Old Oct 16, 2012 | 08:26 PM
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O yes which ecu would be best for the gsr? For the o2 sensor can I use my stock one but it and run it directly to the ecu or I have to get a b series sensor?
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Old Oct 17, 2012 | 05:52 AM
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Old Oct 17, 2012 | 08:53 AM
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Obd1 p72 ecu yes you can use the o2 sensor that's on your car. Depends on where your sensor bung will be locate on your header or exhaust you might need to extend the wiring harness plug to reach your o2.
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Old Oct 17, 2012 | 04:17 PM
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Won't the o2 sensor be wired directly to the ecu so I can just extend wires all the way to the ecu no need to mess with the connector?
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Old Oct 18, 2012 | 01:11 PM
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If the plug for the o2 doesnt reach the o2 sensor then you cut extend the plug and plug it in.
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What about my other questions?
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Now for things I'm still second guessing:
I kno for any b motor for me to keep a/c I'll need the a/c mount off of del sol vtec. And this will allow me to use my stock compressor correct?
What about power steering? I would like to keep my stock pump.
yes,yes

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Ok as far specific motor details:
If I go gsr I'll get a z6 engine harness. Then wire vtec to the ecu. Does the z6 harness come with knock sensor plug? I'll also have to wire in the iab correct even if I get a skunk2 mani?
no ks plug,yes

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On the b20 same question applies as far as power steering goes.
Ill be trying the get the high compression one. So I know I have to wire in the knock sensor. And as far as using the ls ecu I hear the motor will run to lean couldn't I just chip the ecu to have b20 maps and not have to worry about running incorrectly?
yes,get base map
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Ok cool I'll get an obd1 ls ecu with b20 maps...

Ok will any 5spd pedals work I have the option of buying 00 civic si pedals and or 94-01 Integra
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What about power steering
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Also what belts would I use?
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The pedal assembly from the civic should fit fine. Dont know about p/s 10min on google will answer that though.
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I've found a few answers but nothing conclusive to my exact set up
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If you swap out power steering pumps do you have to bleed the system etc?
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So I'm still not sure if I get a b20 and swap just the mani to obd1 ls mani for hood clearance purposes but still run an obd2 engine harness do I have to change out dizzy
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Can I reuse the bolts from my stock t bracket to bolt up the manual teg bracket?
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Is this the correct part number for the a/c bracket I need to run my stock d-series compressor?

38930-p54-000

and I'm going with a b16 from sir as I'm getting a good deal for it for damn near a complete drop in. do I need a b16 tb cable or can I run a gsr? If its b16 which one from 95 del sol vtec or 00 civic si?

please need these questions answered ordering parts this week. thanks
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also which radiator hoses do I need to get?
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Ok will any 5spd pedals work I have the option of buying 00 civic si pedals and or 94-01 Integra
'94 - '01 Integra and '92 - '95 Civic pedals will work. '96 - '00 clutch pedal is the same, but there's something different about the gas and brake pedal assembly, I'm not sure if it's important or not

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What about power steering
LS bracket and use the D-series pump. Or you could use the B20 pump and bracket with a '98 - 01 Integra PS feed line.

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If you swap out power steering pumps do you have to bleed the system etc?
Yes, it's simple though, you just turn the wheel lock to lock a few times to get the air out.

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So I'm still not sure if I get a b20 and swap just the mani to obd1 ls mani for hood clearance purposes but still run an obd2 engine harness do I have to change out dizzy
You can run either. They're the same electrically, just the plug is different.

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Can I reuse the bolts from my stock t bracket to bolt up the manual teg bracket?
I can't remember, but I think so. I know between auto and manual D-series yes you can.

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Is this the correct part number for the a/c bracket I need to run my stock d-series compressor?

38930-p54-000
Yes

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and I'm going with a b16 from sir as I'm getting a good deal for it for damn near a complete drop in. do I need a b16 tb cable or can I run a gsr? If its b16 which one from 95 del sol vtec or 00 civic si?
You need a B16A throttle cable and bracket, I think both are the same, but order whatever one matches the year of your engine. IE if it's OBD1 get the Del Sol Vtec cable.
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Cool thanks. For the reply. Since more then likely ill be going with that b16 swap ill order the b16 cable from the 95 del sol vtec . And I'm not worrying about ps as I'm going to switch to a manual rack as my current rack is toast.

And if I order the p54 bracket new from honda does it come with the bolt that allows the torque mount slide onto?
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I plan on getting this radiator as I'm on a budget and need to replace mine anyways. It should work with the b since I could have re used my stock one correct?
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