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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 12:40 AM
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1998 ek jdm b16a swap gsr transmission:
When i shift during high revs mainly towards 5th gear rpm at 4
CEL pops up and cant pull the codes because the code go away after car is off
I heard its because its not getting enough oil, ex:something like when vtec hits CEL pops up.
is this true any info or tips, thank you!
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 12:54 AM
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Here's an idea: don't turn off your car, and pull the CEL.
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 01:21 AM
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And obd2 should store that code in its memory as well with a code reader.
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 04:30 AM
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And obd2 should store that code in its memory as well with a code reader.
Considering the B16A swap, he's most likely running an OBD1 ECU.
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by jbpnoman
Here's an idea: don't turn off your car, and pull the CEL.
This^ is a common solution for OBD1 ECUs. OP -- What ECU do you have?
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 06:16 AM
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CEL pops up and cant pull the codes because the code go away after car is off
Wheres the common sense?
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 06:30 AM
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he has a bones stock p28
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by JuggerNaut-CTR
Wheres the common sense?
On the FAQ it said to turn off car when pulling codes....
Originally Posted by jbpnoman
Considering the B16A swap, he's most likely running an OBD1 ECU.
True
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This^ is a common solution for OBD1 ECUs. OP -- What ECU do you have?
P28
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 08:05 AM
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On the FAQ it said to turn off car when pulling codes....
Read the Codes sticky. You'll find the OBD1 tip there.
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 08:07 AM
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Read the Codes sticky. You'll find the OBD1 tip there.
Thanks I'm on it
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 10:22 PM
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Ok here is the codes im getting which is 17 i may believe but i also recorded it just to make sure im reading this CEL right. Please review it thank you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNyZz...ature=youtu.be
If it is CEL 17 my speedo works fine RPM and MPG working perfect, what can cause this?
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Old Oct 13, 2012 | 05:11 AM
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I believe you have two codes. 10 and 7. IAT and TPS. I happen to have a frequent code 10 in the past during high revs. I presume the engine is vibrating at a high frequency during revving and shaking the connectors. Clean the connector contacts and press it in tightly. For TPS, check the voltages from idle to full throttle. Adjust if not within specs.
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cayabyab
Ok here is the codes im getting which is 17 i may believe but i also recorded it just to make sure im reading this CEL right. Please review it thank you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNyZz...ature=youtu.be
If it is CEL 17 my speedo works fine RPM and MPG working perfect, what can cause this?


Using the wrong ECU for the motor.
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^^Agreed.
OP is running a stock P28.

Last edited by Former User; Oct 13, 2012 at 06:03 AM. Reason: Warning - you are correct but stop trying to incite arguments
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Old Oct 13, 2012 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by axis11
I believe you have two codes. 10 and 7. IAT and TPS.
This^

Also check for swapped sensor connectors.
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Old Oct 13, 2012 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by RonJ@HT
This^

Also check for swapped sensor connectors.
Is the IAT the white connector on the manifold?
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Old Oct 13, 2012 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by axis11
I believe you have two codes. 10 and 7. IAT and TPS. I happen to have a frequent code 10 in the past during high revs. I presume the engine is vibrating at a high frequency during revving and shaking the connectors. Clean the connector contacts and press it in tightly. For TPS, check the voltages from idle to full throttle. Adjust if not within specs.
Thanks for your tip/Help
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Old Oct 13, 2012 | 11:21 AM
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Is the IAT the white connector on the manifold?
Identify sensor connectors by the colors of the wires.
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Old Oct 13, 2012 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by RonJ@HT
Identify sensor connectors by the colors of the wires.
Ill get that to you ASAP n with some pic
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Just get the right ECU!!!!
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Old Oct 13, 2012 | 01:57 PM
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Just get the right ECU!!!!
I already told you I tried couldn't find one besides the 400$ so I'm gonna chip this p28
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Old Oct 13, 2012 | 02:17 PM
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$400? You must be looking at brand new dealer merchandise.
Phearable Ebay store. $169
http://www.ebay.com/itm/P28-P72-P73-...2c6eef&vxp=mtr
Phearable
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Phearable Chipping kit
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Phearable basemaps.
http://www.phearable.net/shoppingcar...emap-p-60.html
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Old Oct 13, 2012 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cayabyab
I already told you I tried couldn't find one besides the 400$ so I'm gonna chip this p28
So chip it then see if you have codes.
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Old Oct 13, 2012 | 02:38 PM
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It's agreed he has the wrong ECU but having the P28 on a b16a won't cause either of his codes. You either have plugs swapped, missing or broken sensors, or bad wiring to those sensors. Also no offense but you should have just had one thread concerning all your issues so far. You have like 3 or more open threads concerning all your issues which if you had just had continuity on your swap a lot of questions could have been answers and resolved quicker.
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^^You're right. During this swap many issues have been reported piecemeal from a non-calibrated TPS to wrong ECU.

Can you report in their entirety the COMPLETE list of known issues you are having so people can be better prepared to help you diagnose your them? Is your harness complete? Hacked up? Sensors missing (as stated) or not plugged up? This would include any issues that occurred from your auto to manual swap.
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