what coilovers better?
im deciding on either to get BWR ss full coilovers set with full cambers or i was thinking on getting BLOX compettion/tuner coilovers set and cambets. im just wondering what would be better for daily/track? any feedback will help. i don't want to go F&F or koni.
http://www.bloxracing.com/bloxshop/i...product_id=181

http://www.bwrusa.com/product_p/ss-hd01.htm
http://www.bloxracing.com/bloxshop/i...product_id=181

http://www.bwrusa.com/product_p/ss-hd01.htm
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Ever think the reason that everyone has that combo is because it's head's and shoulders above the garbage you just decided to waste your money on?
I just put on the Koni/GroundControl combo on my 94' Si Hatch, and so far it's been great!! Incredible handling/response improvement over the Bilstien shocks/ Neuspeed lowering springs i had.. Do your research on this site, read other threads and get informed, so you don't get clowned.. I went from thinking about Racelands, BWR, Megan Sleeves, before doing research for about a month,and then deciding between Progress and Koni/GC Combo.
But everyone has different needs, taste, and opinions, so Good luck...
But everyone has different needs, taste, and opinions, so Good luck...
Bwr are just plain black, I'd go with D2 (purple) or K sport (orange) but to be different I've seen some Emotor on ebay those were blue so they have to be awesome.
I think jumping off a bridge and breaking both legs would be a better choice than either of those.
Like the others said, Koni/GC or better, its that simple when it comes to suspension for our cars.
Like the others said, Koni/GC or better, its that simple when it comes to suspension for our cars.
I shake my head at threads like this. Does anyone give a rats *** for their hard earned money these days? I respect my clients hard work, and the money they put aside for their suspension needs or any product for that matter, and we work hard to provide the most reliable dampers in the business. But you might as well shoot yourself in the foot because these brands you all supporting have MANY blown dampers, many failures, and you all just keep pumping money into these companies, when their are small companies like myself busting our ***** to make sure each client we make suspension for is going to have the peace of mind to have trouble free use, and have a product that they can say was worth their hard earned money.
It's just like the other thread I saw on the for sale section, someone selling someone some progress coilovers, and one blew in less than 5,000 miles. Yet in the thread people are saying..ohh what awesome coilovers. I am sorry to put it bluntly, but their is nothing awesome about a coilover no matter if it is a sleeve type or full coilover that last no longer than 5,000 miles....I don't care if a replacement is 90-100 bucks!! You do realize these companies are still making a buck off you on these...uhhh CHEAP replacements. I would have replaced that damper NO QUESTIONS ASKED! I don't care how many dampers these companies make, when you have handfuls of blown dampers documented online, and failures such as the RSX/EP3 broken mount from the BWR coils a few months ago. Do you realize the run around that BWR gave the guy?? They couldn't even provide him a replacement mount. This is not just a simple blown damper, but worse. Now this company is making some of their parts in the USA. I don't give a **** if it's made in the USA..the fact is..it is being sold by them. IT'S CALLED MARKETING PEOPLE! A products true worth is not where it is made, but who is selling it, and what they believe in...and their moral obligation to their customers. I would not deal with a company that gave a customer the run around they did after the pictures clearly show something went wrong. Even if it was a fluke, they should have ripped off a replacement from a boxed up set which I am sure they had, and given it to the customer..they did not. I even spoke to the person who had the failure in order to try to get him a replacement or even make him one, but he stated even if he did fix them HE WOULD NEVER RUN THEM AGAIN. Well good for him. Cause I would't give my money back to another OBX, and/or Blox type company, we got enough of those. Those guys can all **** themselves in Cali, AZ..wherever all these guys are from...cause that is pretty much what they all are doing..just like how it was in the bodykits business back in the day...or like how the Arizona scene is for turbo manifolds! Employees starting their own ****..yada yada. it's a very fucked up business. ESPECIALLY WHEN TECHNICIANS start their own business..99 percent of those businesses fail!!!! Just cause you know how to make something, doesn't mean you know how to run a successfull business PERIOD!

This is just an example of what I have seen from the various threads that pop up everywhere about this crap. It's your money, but my gosh have some respect for your life, and your hard earned money guys! To me the actions pretty much state many of these companies don't give a rats *** about your hard earned cash..but hey I can't blame them when your literally just giving it away to them for them to take so they can give you their crap product. Good luck with whatever you all decide for your suspension needs. I been a member of this forum for well over a decade. I have seen many companies come, and go, and I have seen many of the same ole **** as well. If a product is good, you don't need to reinvent yourself....our philosophy..keep it stupid *** simple...and always remember that we are only doing what we are doing because of ALL of you. I personally would not be doing what I love to do if not for the support of our clients around the world. PERIOD!
It's just like the other thread I saw on the for sale section, someone selling someone some progress coilovers, and one blew in less than 5,000 miles. Yet in the thread people are saying..ohh what awesome coilovers. I am sorry to put it bluntly, but their is nothing awesome about a coilover no matter if it is a sleeve type or full coilover that last no longer than 5,000 miles....I don't care if a replacement is 90-100 bucks!! You do realize these companies are still making a buck off you on these...uhhh CHEAP replacements. I would have replaced that damper NO QUESTIONS ASKED! I don't care how many dampers these companies make, when you have handfuls of blown dampers documented online, and failures such as the RSX/EP3 broken mount from the BWR coils a few months ago. Do you realize the run around that BWR gave the guy?? They couldn't even provide him a replacement mount. This is not just a simple blown damper, but worse. Now this company is making some of their parts in the USA. I don't give a **** if it's made in the USA..the fact is..it is being sold by them. IT'S CALLED MARKETING PEOPLE! A products true worth is not where it is made, but who is selling it, and what they believe in...and their moral obligation to their customers. I would not deal with a company that gave a customer the run around they did after the pictures clearly show something went wrong. Even if it was a fluke, they should have ripped off a replacement from a boxed up set which I am sure they had, and given it to the customer..they did not. I even spoke to the person who had the failure in order to try to get him a replacement or even make him one, but he stated even if he did fix them HE WOULD NEVER RUN THEM AGAIN. Well good for him. Cause I would't give my money back to another OBX, and/or Blox type company, we got enough of those. Those guys can all **** themselves in Cali, AZ..wherever all these guys are from...cause that is pretty much what they all are doing..just like how it was in the bodykits business back in the day...or like how the Arizona scene is for turbo manifolds! Employees starting their own ****..yada yada. it's a very fucked up business. ESPECIALLY WHEN TECHNICIANS start their own business..99 percent of those businesses fail!!!! Just cause you know how to make something, doesn't mean you know how to run a successfull business PERIOD!

This is just an example of what I have seen from the various threads that pop up everywhere about this crap. It's your money, but my gosh have some respect for your life, and your hard earned money guys! To me the actions pretty much state many of these companies don't give a rats *** about your hard earned cash..but hey I can't blame them when your literally just giving it away to them for them to take so they can give you their crap product. Good luck with whatever you all decide for your suspension needs. I been a member of this forum for well over a decade. I have seen many companies come, and go, and I have seen many of the same ole **** as well. If a product is good, you don't need to reinvent yourself....our philosophy..keep it stupid *** simple...and always remember that we are only doing what we are doing because of ALL of you. I personally would not be doing what I love to do if not for the support of our clients around the world. PERIOD!
Last edited by Andy@AMR; Sep 3, 2012 at 09:58 AM.

the fact that it bothers you to watch other businesses knowingly sell sub-par products speaks highly of your character and business ethic. as for the consumers.. idk what the **** is wrong with them these days. buy shitty product because it's hyped up and maybe looks cool? this planet.. ugh.
sidenote: is that the steering arm broken off of that strut?? holy...

the fact that it bothers you to watch other businesses knowingly sell sub-par products speaks highly of your character and business ethic. as for the consumers.. idk what the **** is wrong with them these days. buy shitty product because it's hyped up and maybe looks cool? this planet.. ugh.
sidenote: is that the steering arm broken off of that strut?? holy...



