As stated below, the H&R Sport are 1/2 inch lower. Would the difference be noticable, I really want to order my spring today?

95 Accord Coupe.
H&R Sport at 1.75"front 1.5" rear
Eibach ProKit at 1.2" front and rear

Technically, will the extra half inch cause unwanted scraping, or are the H&R higher rate (stiffer) springs or the spring rate identical to the ProKit? Can anyone who has the H&R Sport on thier 90-97 Accord send me a picture and share some stories about them?


[Modified by ayacht, 9:42 PM 10/16/2002]


[Modified by ayacht, 9:43 PM 10/16/2002]

 

i would like to hear this too, i'm about to buy mine, but i been doing research and i like the Eibach Por-Kit/KYB AGX, but i saw the other day the new Neusspeed SoftSport (which lowers .75 Front and back) and i don't know if they are good enough

I want Stiffer springs that don't lower my car that much, i have heard wonderfull things of the Pro-Kit and i'm about to buy them

PS: the eibach is progressive spring rates, and i think the neuspeed are too, any info and experience would be apreciated.
BUMP!

 

the sports are a better spring, they actually drop your car evenly. the prokits sometimes don't even give you the drop you would want.

 

i don't care about drop, in fact i don't want drop, maybe ayatch wants it, but what about the handling and the ride? (i know the ride is in the shock, but the springs have something to do with it)

 

Because the H&R springs will lower you another 0.5", you will generally scrap things that are 0.5" higher.

Springs are not designed to dampen impacts. That is what shocks are for. Ever seen an old car hit a little bump and just bounce up and down for a good 200 feet? Well thats because those shocks are blown, and the springs dont provide nearly enough damping necessary to keep the car at the proper ride height. This holds true for most streetable aftermarket springs, and changes a little with higher rates such at 500lbs. +.

 

I think both of them are good stuffs, but if i have to pick one, i am going for eibach prokit.
It will drop your car evenly, YES.
ppl say that prokit dont drop the car evenly because the front look little more higher than the rear, it just the way you look at it, the spring is even and am sure it will lower the car evenly.
If you want more drop go for Eibach sportline.

 

Also purchased KYB AGX 8 position shocks to go with my possible H&Rsports buy. So if I damp the hell out of it, it will provide a shorter spring travel, though a harder ride. If later I would want to raise it a half inch, are there spacers that can be placed betweent the spring and perch?

Eibach sportline creates a much too drastic drop. I don't find the slammed looks very appealing, but a modest drop is nice.


[Modified by ayacht, 11:03 PM 10/16/2002]

 

i have H&R sport springs on my car which is a 2001 accord v6 and i really enjoy the ride and the handling i am getting new struts probably this week or the next but anyway i really do like the springs.

 

Harder ride.

If you want to adjust the height, get coilovers sleeves.

 

i would go with H&R sports springs.

i used to have them on my 94 accord, i loved them! no, i still love them!

well i've heard too many complaints regarding to the height difference on the front left/right for Eibach lowering springs...

 

How much fender gap remains?

Can anyone tell me if you can put spacers between the spring and perch, or top strut mount, to lift it back up a 1/2" if 1.75" is too much?


[Modified by ayacht, 12:19 AM 10/17/2002]

 

"well i've heard too many complaints regarding to the height difference on the front left/right for Eibach lowering springs..."
Where on earth you install that springs?

 

H&R's on handling but drop is not enough I currently have them on my rears and skunk2's coilovers on the front just to get it leveled perfect but the rear shoulda been dropped alittle more leaves about a 2-3" gap from my 18" rim. H&R & KYB AGX good setup if drop height isn't the problem with a good comfortable ride.

 

I do not have a big gap just a little above the tire on the front and the back.

 

Where did you here this? I'll admit that it LOOKS like the front is higher than the back but really it is an even drop. The drop looks good and the ride is great. I have my prokit coupled with tokico and I can't praise them enough.

 

If you have the time and money and are really serious about motorsports, have your car corner-weighted. Otherwise, 0.25 inches higher on one end will NOT make a difference on the street. And if all this 'uneven' talk is all about looks, stop wasting everyones time.

Welcome to Honda-TECH, enjoy the ride.

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm serious about motorsports and I'm not trying to waste anyones time here. I'm just trying to figure out why people are saying that the prokit leaves the car uneven. Whether the car is or is not uneven from front to back I'm not complaining cause I love the way the car handles.

 

If you're serious about autoX etc you should definately look for coilovers. Prokits and H&Rs do lower the car a bit, and stiffens the ride somewhat. Mainly these springs are for cosmetics and ride comfort. Dont waste your time on these. I put Pro-kits on my gals ride and they are even all the way around.

 

I am, I'm looking into getting TEIN coilovers. The only reason that the prokits and tokicos are there now is because I bought the car that way. Haven't even had the car for a year yet.

 

Touringaccord: My statement WAS NOT DIRECTED TOWARD YOU. It was a general statement. I apologize if you thought so.

 

Everyone is saying that Eibach springs lower unevenly because when an accord is stock the front fender wheel well gap between the tire and the fender is bigger than in the rear! So when you lower it evenly it will still be higher in the front than the rear unless you get springs that lower the front more it will still retain the same "look" but it will just haver a lower ride height.

 

I apologize, I thought it was directed towards me. Didn't mean to get defensive and all but I thought you meant me. Once again I apologize for taking it the wrong way.

edit: spelling error


[Modified by TouringAccord, 12:26 PM 10/17/2002]

 

I think we are debating two totally different aspects of spring/shock setups. One is for lowering the car which these springs provide, that is why no one can tell the size or spring rate for them, or if they are progressive or linear rates. The other point is for a performance application in which "lowering" or having an "even" gap means very little. This is why they make coilovers. To adjust for corner weighting and camber. Your damper just helps tighten the spring bounce up. Once you move above 450 lbs to 500 lbs spring then you move into a different territory all together.

lets clear up this discussion......
1. I fyou want to lower your car for looks use "sport" springs, they use a little higher spring rate and allow for more comfort. If you want the heght adjustment out of them purchse a coil-over kit. Nothing expensive, I got my first set off of e-bay for $125.
2. If you want performance start with a simple coil -over kit. Purchase spring rates around 300 lbs front 350 lbs rear. A damper adjustable shock/strut will be essential because stock struts will not handle those rates under heat and pressure. Then learn how to control the car with a easier rotating rear-end. From there tighten the supension up with other parts. Then move up in spring rate.

 

Eibach Pro-kit is progressive rate.

 

When you say you have the H&R's are they the Sport or OEsport?