I have a water cooled GT30R and a Tial MVS watercooled wastegate. I'm looking for pictures of how other people set up their turbos.

Is it ok to T off the water from the turbo and run it to the wastegate?

Post pics of your water cooled turbo and wastegate setups on hondas and other cars..

 

wrong forum.....

 

Actually I wanted to see how others had fabricated their water cooling... But whatever...

 

Pm the Tial rep on here https://honda-tech.com/forums/members/tial-999524198/

 

brfittings has the kit.

 

Ideally you want to tee the coolant supply before the Turbo and wastegate to.give them both.the coolest coolant possible.

 

Won't really matter. The cartridge won't alleviate the endogenric effects of the heat transferrence from the turbine housing into the cartridge until the car shuts down anyway. Whether or not it is a "lower" temperature won't matter when using Ethyl Glycol or any mix thereof.

 

true, but having the coolest possible coolant entering the chra allows for maximum convection due to the higher temperature differential.

the cooler the coolant at one side of the turbo after shut off means that the coolant will flow better through the system since heat tries to equalize... it will be more efficient than trying to transfer heat to fluid thats near its temperature threshold.... kinda like how hot water freezes faster than cold water due to the greater temperature differential

 

Again, not really. At over 780* EGTs even on slightly sprinted runs, you're just trying to split hairs in an attempt to cool down your glycol 1-2 degrees.

Here's one of my setups with the water cooling setup on the turbo and wastegate.



I'm using:
B&R Fittings water line kit that connects to a Koyo Dual core Half-sized radiator
JDL Auto Design bottom mount manifold (Doesn't set the turbo horribly low)
Water lines to wastegate are run from a tap in the thermostat housing and throttle body.

 

Wow!!, I google'd the hot water freezing faster than cold, very interesting and true. I myself and having trouble routing the coolant lines from the freeze plug to the turbo, its super tight in that area and would love if someone had some pics to share..

 

I see what you're getting at Mac. I was just thinking in the most analytical scientific way lol.

 

Oh no no. Don't get me wrong, getting a good efficient mixture is definitely needed, one just shouldn't try and re-invent the wheel in an effort to slow down a small drop in the bucket

 

I am planning to run all of my water supply for the turbo / wastegate from the thermostat housing (H22) where the stock lines for the throttle body are.

Will probably drill/tap a thread for some -6AN fittings.

The real question remains, do I run a loop through the turbo to the wastegate and back to the engine or do I run 2 seperate sets of lines?

Thanks for the picture BTW. Any other pictures of setups are welcome.

 

Here's a picture of my setup so far:

 

Have to bump this old thread to ask a question. I'm looking for anyone's closer pictures or explanations of how their system is ran for just the turbo.

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...er_Cooling.pdf

This is a good read ^ and it says the center cartridge should be at a 20 degree angle from horizontal with the feed coming in on the lower of the two water ports and the return ending higher than the turbo coming from the higher port, with the flow going "uphill" the whole return.

Is everyone with a water cooled turbo following these guidelines?

 

Yep, I am. And that link has been posted before by Mac. They even bring the principle of convection earlier in this thread (which is why the cartridge is tilted).

 

Yep.. check the FAQs..

 

Yeah I knew it's the most efficient way I just have seen other info, b&r fittings kit says return can be welded on top or bottom end tank of radiator and go-autoworks sells a radiator with the -6 on the bottom end tank as a return as well, I'd think the bottom tank would be too low for a return fitting. I did not check the FAQs though just searched, my bad. Looks like mine will be welded to the top end tank of the radiator. Thanks guys.

 

I didn't weld mine at all for the water kit for the turbo. I used an adapter fitting at my radiator's drain plug. Why weld at all?

 

My only concern with using the bottom of the radiator is you're putting hot coolant from the chra back into the cooling system without it being cooled

Using the top means that the coolant from the turbo will pass through the core and be cooled.

 

I keep telling you it doesn't matter, and that coolant isn't ciphening (sp?) through the cartridge like you think while the car is running.. Read the article, you'll see why I say this.

You've known me for years.. Probably one of the longest. Now WHY would I try and say anything else that doesn't make sense like that, my friend?

 

My thoughts were the bottom of the radiator would be too low (lower than the turbo) so you wouldn't get the "uphill" travel through the whole return line like the article describes (above the picture of the center housing on page 6) , leading to the thermal siphoning not taking place like it should after the car is shut off.

I'm not arguing I'm just trying to gain some knowledge ha. Unless that is what you are saying doesn't matter

 

Again, when the entire coolant system is pressurized the way they are with our sized engines and radiators, it doesn't make a difference. the Article looks at optimal conditions. I'd never tilt the cartridge over 10-20 degrees just for water cooling, it could possibly affect oil drainage. there's a balance to everything.

Having water lines hooked up to both the turbo and the wastegate is great insurance in running on the circuit, and I didn't need a MILLER welder to do it.

 

Gotcha. I figured it could be a "splitting hairs" debate like you mentioned earlier. Thanks for the info Shodan.

 

I made a bad mistake and editing my quote. I was looking atvthe photo wrong. My apologies. Correction made