noob intro and "build" thread
well first off hello
i got an 89 honda civic ef
its a 1.5 4 speed
i got it for 700 and it was supposed to be a beater car but
i like its looks and it drives like a gokart so i want to do some work on it make it nice
mostly this is to find me parts i know hondas and legos go hand in hand but which part is best i have no idea
well so heres a short list of want to do
that one wiper thing my buddy did it on his integra but idk what wiper i need etc.
i want a center console and cup holders would be nice
the throwout bearing is really noisy and i got two options pull tranny and replace or do a swap to a 5 or 6 speed if i can even get a 6 speed manual
i want to remove a lot of trim windsheild for sure and i was wondering the best way to go about it and keep the windsheild sealed etc?
my buddy said do a mini me conversion what is this and how is it done?
now i know ebay got parts dirt cheap i dont wanna ricer it out but i want a reiable daily driver with good power etc. but any handeling stuff etc would be considered.
i plan to buy anything that i find that i think looks good on cl for it
also someone did a battery relocation well for weight distribution that would be nice too and i think ill do that then run a larger battery
i got 2 12s in the back now
also im going to tear apart the rear area and make a vertical spare tire holder and custom jack mount so i can add a battery and spare tire hole cover to finish it off a bit
i got stock wheels and snow tires yes they go anywhere but something sportier and better looking would be nice im thinking a lower profile 16
i do not want to lower it unless someone has a fix for the wheel bearing issues because i hate press in bearings
also i seen on here rear disc brake conversion that would be awesome whats all needed and off what?
anything ya can answer would be helpfull and soon ill start sinking time and money into it
and something tells me this will go sorta post appoclypse with the look of it as my truck has gone there and it looks mean
i will post up a pic of it tomorrow
i got an 89 honda civic ef
its a 1.5 4 speed
i got it for 700 and it was supposed to be a beater car but
i like its looks and it drives like a gokart so i want to do some work on it make it nice
mostly this is to find me parts i know hondas and legos go hand in hand but which part is best i have no idea
well so heres a short list of want to do
that one wiper thing my buddy did it on his integra but idk what wiper i need etc.
i want a center console and cup holders would be nice
the throwout bearing is really noisy and i got two options pull tranny and replace or do a swap to a 5 or 6 speed if i can even get a 6 speed manual
i want to remove a lot of trim windsheild for sure and i was wondering the best way to go about it and keep the windsheild sealed etc?
my buddy said do a mini me conversion what is this and how is it done?
now i know ebay got parts dirt cheap i dont wanna ricer it out but i want a reiable daily driver with good power etc. but any handeling stuff etc would be considered.
i plan to buy anything that i find that i think looks good on cl for it
also someone did a battery relocation well for weight distribution that would be nice too and i think ill do that then run a larger battery
i got 2 12s in the back now
also im going to tear apart the rear area and make a vertical spare tire holder and custom jack mount so i can add a battery and spare tire hole cover to finish it off a bit
i got stock wheels and snow tires yes they go anywhere but something sportier and better looking would be nice im thinking a lower profile 16
i do not want to lower it unless someone has a fix for the wheel bearing issues because i hate press in bearings
also i seen on here rear disc brake conversion that would be awesome whats all needed and off what?
anything ya can answer would be helpfull and soon ill start sinking time and money into it
and something tells me this will go sorta post appoclypse with the look of it as my truck has gone there and it looks mean
i will post up a pic of it tomorrow
word of advice, dont do the "one wiper thing." It looks stupid and works like sh*t in the rain. If youre going to do that might as well take off the wipers completely bc it is worthless. For it to properly clear your windshield of rain you have to have the wipers turned on as fast as they can go for a light drizzle.
All of you questions can be answered by using the search function. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but this is Honda-tech. There are so many haters here that will refuse to spoon feed you info that has been covered 100 times. Google is your friend. Your car in stock form is going to be your best option for a daily driver. Just do a tune up and fix any issues you currently have. Do a 5 speed swap if you want. There are no 6 speeds for a d series motor except the super low gear for the wagons but it would be worthless for your car.
All of you questions can be answered by using the search function. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but this is Honda-tech. There are so many haters here that will refuse to spoon feed you info that has been covered 100 times. Google is your friend. Your car in stock form is going to be your best option for a daily driver. Just do a tune up and fix any issues you currently have. Do a 5 speed swap if you want. There are no 6 speeds for a d series motor except the super low gear for the wagons but it would be worthless for your car.
Take your wipers off put them in your trunk and keep a 12mm in your glove box
Get it out of a teggy
Any b or a k
dont touche the windshield
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-crx-ef-civic-1988-1991-3/faq-d15-obd1-sohc-vtec-mini-me-massive-write-up-56k-no-way-635580/
No idea what your trying to say. Strut,sway bars,coil overs? I guess would be the answer
Take the hole brake assembily from the teggy and also the port valve.
Only battery you should get is the Odyssey or just keep the one you have.
Get it out of a teggy
Any b or a k
dont touche the windshield
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-crx-ef-civic-1988-1991-3/faq-d15-obd1-sohc-vtec-mini-me-massive-write-up-56k-no-way-635580/
No idea what your trying to say. Strut,sway bars,coil overs? I guess would be the answer
Take the hole brake assembily from the teggy and also the port valve.
Only battery you should get is the Odyssey or just keep the one you have.
i just got up pics will be up soon.
thanks for the info everyone and that link looks idiot proof
and i ask the questions because i come from the truck world ee ed lk mz im lost with all the 2 letter terms. also the tegy i know is integra but what years bolt up for the rear brake and console? i saw 92 for the rear brakes
thanks for the info everyone and that link looks idiot proof
and i ask the questions because i come from the truck world ee ed lk mz im lost with all the 2 letter terms. also the tegy i know is integra but what years bolt up for the rear brake and console? i saw 92 for the rear brakes
and i found one more thing i want to do a full sized rad can i get one fairly cheap and decent quality again this done need to be full race just dd and fun and reiable?
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well first off hello
i got an 89 honda civic ef
its a 1.5 4 speed
i got it for 700 and it was supposed to be a beater car but
i like its looks and it drives like a gokart so i want to do some work on it make it nice
mostly this is to find me parts i know hondas and legos go hand in hand but which part is best i have no idea
well so heres a short list of want to do
that one wiper thing my buddy did it on his integra but idk what wiper i need etc.
Dont go ONE WIPER! PERIOD!
i want a center console and cup holders would be nice
I believe a 92-95 sedan would have what your looking for
the throwout bearing is really noisy and i got two options pull tranny and replace or do a swap to a 5 or 6 speed if i can even get a 6 speed manual
Swap to 5 speed or change out the throw out bearing
i want to remove a lot of trim windsheild for sure and i was wondering the best way to go about it and keep the windsheild sealed etc?
Why do you want to remove the trim? Painting it?
my buddy said do a mini me conversion what is this and how is it done?
Google Minime swap (simple enough)
now i know ebay got parts dirt cheap i dont wanna ricer it out but i want a reiable daily driver with good power etc. but any handeling stuff etc would be considered.
Handling stuf on Ebay is fine IE (strut bars, coilovers good ones, control arms etc)
i plan to buy anything that i find that i think looks good on cl for it
I loves me some CL!
also someone did a battery relocation well for weight distribution that would be nice too and i think ill do that then run a larger battery
No need to relocate the battery if your not stuffing a H22 in it! Trust me I know.
i got 2 12s in the back now
I have two 12's in my sedan that add enough weight to the rear lol
also im going to tear apart the rear area and make a vertical spare tire holder and custom jack mount so i can add a battery and spare tire hole cover to finish it off a bit
Again NO NEED TO RELOCATE! NO POINT!
i got stock wheels and snow tires yes they go anywhere but something sportier and better looking would be nice im thinking a lower profile 16
I have 16's with 40 series tires, a bit to small but looks ok
i do not want to lower it unless someone has a fix for the wheel bearing issues because i hate press in bearings
My car is lowered and I have no bearing issues, JUST DO IT!
also i seen on here rear disc brake conversion that would be awesome whats all needed and off what?
90-93 Integra front knuckles (complete) and rear trailing arms (complete)
anything ya can answer would be helpfull and soon ill start sinking time and money into it
and something tells me this will go sorta post appoclypse with the look of it as my truck has gone there and it looks mean
i will post up a pic of it tomorrow
i got an 89 honda civic ef
its a 1.5 4 speed
i got it for 700 and it was supposed to be a beater car but
i like its looks and it drives like a gokart so i want to do some work on it make it nice
mostly this is to find me parts i know hondas and legos go hand in hand but which part is best i have no idea
well so heres a short list of want to do
that one wiper thing my buddy did it on his integra but idk what wiper i need etc.
Dont go ONE WIPER! PERIOD!
i want a center console and cup holders would be nice
I believe a 92-95 sedan would have what your looking for
the throwout bearing is really noisy and i got two options pull tranny and replace or do a swap to a 5 or 6 speed if i can even get a 6 speed manual
Swap to 5 speed or change out the throw out bearing
i want to remove a lot of trim windsheild for sure and i was wondering the best way to go about it and keep the windsheild sealed etc?
Why do you want to remove the trim? Painting it?
my buddy said do a mini me conversion what is this and how is it done?
Google Minime swap (simple enough)
now i know ebay got parts dirt cheap i dont wanna ricer it out but i want a reiable daily driver with good power etc. but any handeling stuff etc would be considered.
Handling stuf on Ebay is fine IE (strut bars, coilovers good ones, control arms etc)
i plan to buy anything that i find that i think looks good on cl for it
I loves me some CL!
also someone did a battery relocation well for weight distribution that would be nice too and i think ill do that then run a larger battery
No need to relocate the battery if your not stuffing a H22 in it! Trust me I know.
i got 2 12s in the back now
I have two 12's in my sedan that add enough weight to the rear lol
also im going to tear apart the rear area and make a vertical spare tire holder and custom jack mount so i can add a battery and spare tire hole cover to finish it off a bit
Again NO NEED TO RELOCATE! NO POINT!
i got stock wheels and snow tires yes they go anywhere but something sportier and better looking would be nice im thinking a lower profile 16
I have 16's with 40 series tires, a bit to small but looks ok
i do not want to lower it unless someone has a fix for the wheel bearing issues because i hate press in bearings
My car is lowered and I have no bearing issues, JUST DO IT!
also i seen on here rear disc brake conversion that would be awesome whats all needed and off what?
90-93 Integra front knuckles (complete) and rear trailing arms (complete)
anything ya can answer would be helpfull and soon ill start sinking time and money into it
and something tells me this will go sorta post appoclypse with the look of it as my truck has gone there and it looks mean
i will post up a pic of it tomorrow
h22 that was some good info ya i dont think ill do the wiper thing ill take the words of many over one.
well could i do a obdII swap to get a 6 speeed? or are the 6 speeds not worth it?
and for a mini me is that the best bang for the buck?
and which tranny would be best
taken from the link above this says an ex tranny is best whats an ex?
pics on the way uploading now
edit and whats involved in awd swap id love awd as the truck is 4x4 and i take this thing on some rough roads that are too small for the truck
well could i do a obdII swap to get a 6 speeed? or are the 6 speeds not worth it?
and for a mini me is that the best bang for the buck?
and which tranny would be best
7. How much faster will my car be once it is done?
Well, my car definitely felt much better overall. The lower end will be a bit torquier, and your car will pull much better in the higher RPM’s (5000+). I feel the most difference on the highway, having the extra HP is very nice when you need to merge. The one downfall to a mini-me is the long transmission. The DX transmission is much longer than the EX, and the VX/CX is even worse. I did some calculations, at 7200 RPM here are your shift points with respective transmissions (using 195/50/15 tires, stock tire size):
CX/VX Transmission:
46 - 85 - 140 - 175
DX/LX Transmission:
37 - 68 - 102 - 132
EX/Si Transmission:
35 - 60 - 91 - 126
The gear ratios were taken from Mista Bone's tranny page. Emerika stated that the EX transmission shaved 7 tenths of a second off of his quarter mile time in his hatchback, you DEFINITELY want to get the EX transmission
I was finally able to run my mini-me in the quarter mile. As you can see, with the VTEC working and with the 20” tires (as well as some better driving) I was able to pull off a 15.9@86, a full second faster than with the B7 with I/E. I know my motor has even more potential than this because that run was with the long *** DX tranny
Well, my car definitely felt much better overall. The lower end will be a bit torquier, and your car will pull much better in the higher RPM’s (5000+). I feel the most difference on the highway, having the extra HP is very nice when you need to merge. The one downfall to a mini-me is the long transmission. The DX transmission is much longer than the EX, and the VX/CX is even worse. I did some calculations, at 7200 RPM here are your shift points with respective transmissions (using 195/50/15 tires, stock tire size):
CX/VX Transmission:
46 - 85 - 140 - 175
DX/LX Transmission:
37 - 68 - 102 - 132
EX/Si Transmission:
35 - 60 - 91 - 126
The gear ratios were taken from Mista Bone's tranny page. Emerika stated that the EX transmission shaved 7 tenths of a second off of his quarter mile time in his hatchback, you DEFINITELY want to get the EX transmission
I was finally able to run my mini-me in the quarter mile. As you can see, with the VTEC working and with the 20” tires (as well as some better driving) I was able to pull off a 15.9@86, a full second faster than with the B7 with I/E. I know my motor has even more potential than this because that run was with the long *** DX tranny
pics on the way uploading now
edit and whats involved in awd swap id love awd as the truck is 4x4 and i take this thing on some rough roads that are too small for the truck
if you are going to do a mini me i would also do a mpfi swap. just try to buy the z6 intake mani fuel rail and tb still attached to the z6 head. you will have to do some wiring but there are so many write ups to it around it shouldnt be hard to find a good one. and also dont get the ex tranny. get an 88-91 si trans. unless you want to buy a cable to hydro kit for your car. the si cable trans are older but just take it apart before you swap it in and make sure eveything is alright. maybe change some bearings or syncros. save yourself the trouble of them going out in 10 or 20k miles. also i agree the one wipe isnt a good idea
good luck on the build man
good luck on the build man
ok mpfi?
well you said a good write up and i know how the net is so would you mind linking one? because all i know from what you said is tb is throttle body and z6 is a marking on the head you can use for a minime swap. the rest is too honda for my truck knoledge brain thanks.
and i found a few swap builds online already and one guy had 3 head options 2 intake optopns etc its still a bit confusing
well you said a good write up and i know how the net is so would you mind linking one? because all i know from what you said is tb is throttle body and z6 is a marking on the head you can use for a minime swap. the rest is too honda for my truck knoledge brain thanks.
and i found a few swap builds online already and one guy had 3 head options 2 intake optopns etc its still a bit confusing
When you say noob thread....you werent joking. I already stated the d-series 6speed trans are awd...so why in the all thats holy are you still asking about the 6speed trans. If your not doing the awd conversion from the 88-91 civic wagon...you are not gonna get a 6speed. And what does obd2 have to do with having the 6speed?
FYI......mpfi (multi point fuel injection) versus the dpfi (dual point fuel injection) your motor currently has.
FYI......mpfi (multi point fuel injection) versus the dpfi (dual point fuel injection) your motor currently has.
ya i realized mpfi just before i read it
i asked meaning if swapping to a newer motor to have it was possible
ya the trucks a diesel you pick anything on it i can tell you all about it what mods can be done to the part etc. but hondas im clueless
i asked meaning if swapping to a newer motor to have it was possible
ya the trucks a diesel you pick anything on it i can tell you all about it what mods can be done to the part etc. but hondas im clueless
Just google everything bro, itll save you from asking questions that people will hate on you for.
The only six speed that I know of is the RSX trans , that or the S2000 but either way YOU wont be able to accomplish either. No offense its just too much work for a NEWB..
MPFI(Multi Point Fuel Injection) basically you have TWO injectors DUAL Point fuel injection (DPFI) and if you choose the Z6 Swap (mini me) youll have to wire up the other two injectors and distributor etc etc.. Again if you search youll find ALL of the info you need.
In all honesty I would search everything that you have asked then formulate a plan based on YOUR skill level and money availability.
1. Si trans
2. Mini me
3. Struts and springs
4. Exhaust
5. Wheels
6. Alignment
7. TUNE UP TUNE UP TUNE UP
8. Brakes! With SS lines of course
The only six speed that I know of is the RSX trans , that or the S2000 but either way YOU wont be able to accomplish either. No offense its just too much work for a NEWB..
MPFI(Multi Point Fuel Injection) basically you have TWO injectors DUAL Point fuel injection (DPFI) and if you choose the Z6 Swap (mini me) youll have to wire up the other two injectors and distributor etc etc.. Again if you search youll find ALL of the info you need.
In all honesty I would search everything that you have asked then formulate a plan based on YOUR skill level and money availability.
1. Si trans
2. Mini me
3. Struts and springs
4. Exhaust
5. Wheels
6. Alignment
7. TUNE UP TUNE UP TUNE UP
8. Brakes! With SS lines of course
honestly for all the labor of a mini me and all the parts that you but i think it might be better for him to just buy a z6 swap? then the bottom end will be balanced and good to higher revs like 7k or 7500. not the likw 5.5k that the d15b2 has. and with you saying that you have knowledge of engines in general like with your truck im guessing you have pulled and put in an engine before. and i know that a gas honda engine is alot different from the diesel trucks you are used to but if you mark everything and have good guides from online i dont think it will be all to hard for you to do. and if you do the full engine swap you can probably get the whole swap for like 500 to 650 depending on where your at. like engine intake trans ecu axles harness. then i bet you could sell or trade the s20 trans you get with the z6 for the l3 si that you need to avoid the cable to hydro conversion. just make sure you are getting an si. the si dx and hf are all l3 trans also i think the std 4 speed you have is also an l3? not sure. but if you go into the faq in the ef section look at the how to identify your l3 transmission or something like that i forget the name, it will show you everything so you dont end up with looooonnnngggg gears of the hf. or the just kinda long of the dx. hell maybe even pick up a rear ended civic ex with the z6 in it. i have seen wrecked ones on cl for 500. you pull the engine and part out the rest and i bet you could make money. just some ideas. im bored as **** so i dont mind trying to help you out with your questions i ask them alot also. just try to search some of the stuff up. or look at build threads or the faq that are on the site. once again good luck ha i know you will need it. the first time doing things its always the worst ha just lable and dont lose stuff
the write ups in the faq are pretty well done. they wouldnt put them there if they werent. and its lid out pretty easy so not much searching
Want the best bang for your bucks?
-Go get a sohc ZC (vtec or non vtec, both will work... non vtec is usually cheaper)
-drop that in (mounts 100%, no fabrication needed)
-get a real exhaust - NO ebay specials
-get a real intake - no backyard specials here either
-drop it on some tokiko blues and some springs that drop it 1.5inches - this will definitely still be daily drivable unless you live out in the boonies
-repair and replace/maintain componants as needed to OEM standards
then once you have all that down THEN go and add a turbo, a tune, fancyboy mugen parts...
I'm tired with my ****in beater hatch, I'm probably going to pick up a CRX or E30 by the end of the year and do exactly what I listed above
-Go get a sohc ZC (vtec or non vtec, both will work... non vtec is usually cheaper)
-drop that in (mounts 100%, no fabrication needed)
-get a real exhaust - NO ebay specials
-get a real intake - no backyard specials here either
-drop it on some tokiko blues and some springs that drop it 1.5inches - this will definitely still be daily drivable unless you live out in the boonies
-repair and replace/maintain componants as needed to OEM standards
then once you have all that down THEN go and add a turbo, a tune, fancyboy mugen parts...
I'm tired with my ****in beater hatch, I'm probably going to pick up a CRX or E30 by the end of the year and do exactly what I listed above
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