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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 09:26 AM
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Hello everyone my name is lukas, just picked up my first honda. Got it for a trade for a 94 celica that I had. Going to be restoring it so i have a reliable daily while i build my track car.





Car did not have a rear hardline soo had to change that, and ended up snapping the bleeder valves on the drumbs so had to change that



Also did the front lines and now the car stops!

lugs were rusted on



not the only thing thats rusty



What the motor bay will never have



washing my 2 babys




And now my current issue The timing belt makes its way off the cam gear every time i stop i tap it back on, anyone know wear i should start looking? New motor maybe? or could it be a simple fix




The previous owner said it has a newly rebuilt motor so im thinking maybe it was put on wrong? Any ideas?
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 09:59 AM
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edit: **** it.. lol

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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 10:01 AM
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Sounds like something isn't lined up. check and make sure the two "washers" are on the crankshaft. one is on the inside and one is on the outside of the timing gear on the crankshaft. also make sure they bow away from the belt the will look like this )gear(
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 11:13 AM
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The problem with the belt is def. the washer in between the crank gear. One before the gear and one outside before the cover. Good luck with the Resto. So is the turbo going in? lol thinking you had a typo at "Never"
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 02:16 PM
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The problem with the belt is def. the washer in between the crank gear. One before the gear and one outside before the cover. Good luck with the Resto. So is the turbo going in? lol thinking you had a typo at "Never"
alright i will take a look at it once im back in town, If they are not there wear can i get the washers? just a parts store or honda? and yup thats that turbo is never going in it, thats going in my miata lol
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 10:35 PM
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camgear is from wrong motor too btw you should get the stock one cuz that one timing is off by a tooth or half of one something like that
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 11:27 PM
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looks like you have some work on your hands to stop that rust from spreading
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 01:52 PM
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Its a frankenstein motor =/ should i still see if the washers are put on wrong?
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Old Jul 29, 2012 | 01:16 PM
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Stripped the car today to clean it up. Found alot off rust and crap

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Old Jul 29, 2012 | 01:17 PM
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Any tips on killing and removal of rust?
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Old Jul 29, 2012 | 04:52 PM
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get a grinder, new metal, a welder and patience.
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Old Jul 30, 2012 | 05:34 PM
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Started removing my timing belt today, But i am stuck, put the car in gear to remove the crank pully and all it does is spin, i looked it up and the how to's say i need a tool is this true?
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Old Jul 31, 2012 | 11:53 PM
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rust fix my specialty for quick fix cut out any loose rust then pop rivet a patch on before that por 15 or another rust encapsulating paint on any surface that is slightly rusted or new metal. you could also glass it like i did but ill be redoing mine as it looks like hell.
if you do glass as a quick fix spray foam will give a good base to hold the glass to just sand it down smooth and glass over. if its more permant use a foam without water in its reaction.

for long fix and the right fix cut and weld por 15 everything inside the rocker and make sure you cut all the rust out you can. a tip on sheetmetal small spot welds spaced far apart and it wont warp.
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Old Aug 1, 2012 | 05:57 AM
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Started removing my timing belt today, But i am stuck, put the car in gear to remove the crank pully and all it does is spin, i looked it up and the how to's say i need a tool is this true?
You dont need the tool, it definately makes it eaiser, but dont need it. what do you mean spinning??? The whole crank pulley and bolt is spinning, or just the bolt?
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Old Aug 1, 2012 | 03:06 PM
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You dont need the tool, it definately makes it eaiser, but dont need it. what do you mean spinning??? The whole crank pulley and bolt is spinning, or just the bolt?
The bolt on the outside of the pully would just spin i had it in gear and would still spin, did it agian today but had a friend hold the brake peddle and it came right off, i will be removing the rest of it after work today, do i need to set it to TDC? i thought i will just mark the timing belt to the gear in a bunch of places slip the belt off check the washers and slip it back on thoughts?
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Old Aug 1, 2012 | 07:48 PM
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Well a little update

I though the car is going to be down for a whole so i thougt oo i know i will do a wire tuck sooo started that



driver side


passenger side



driver side fender




removed the battery




started it



pulled the dash this morning



rust mmmm






Then my friend came and we figured out how to get the crank pully bolt lose


hmmm i wonder wear the timing belt was rubbing





SO AM I MISSING A PART? NOT SURE HELLPPPP

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Old Aug 1, 2012 | 09:13 PM
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The thing you are grabbing with your left index finger. You're missing one of those. Retains the timing belt. That's probably why it was rubbing.
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Old Aug 2, 2012 | 02:51 AM
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thats crazy the only thing keeping the timing belt from coming off was the cover, and that looks like it was about fall apart.
good luck on the build
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Old Aug 2, 2012 | 04:28 AM
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The bolt on the outside of the pully would just spin i had it in gear and would still spin, did it agian today but had a friend hold the brake peddle and it came right off, i will be removing the rest of it after work today, do i need to set it to TDC? i thought i will just mark the timing belt to the gear in a bunch of places slip the belt off check the washers and slip it back on thoughts?
Yes you should set everything back to TDC
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Old Aug 2, 2012 | 10:07 AM
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crxin is right.

It's very easy to do. I've done it at least 10 times in the last couple of weeks trying to figure out my distributor problem.
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Old Aug 2, 2012 | 10:45 AM
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crxin is right.

It's very easy to do. I've done it at least 10 times in the last couple of weeks trying to figure out my distributor problem.
steps on how to do it please?
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Old Aug 2, 2012 | 11:49 AM
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Loosen the tensioner.

Slide the belt off the cam pulley.

Put the crank at 90° from TDC.

Align the marks on the cam pulley face with marks on the cover behind the pulley.

Put the crank at TDC.

Slide belt back onto the cam pulley, making sure it doesn't rotate and the belt is tight on front side of the engine.

Rotate the crank counter-clockwise about 15° (or when you start feeling tension from compression).

Tighten tensioner pulley.

Rotate the engine through a couple revolutions to make sure there is no interference.

Note: As the cylinders produce pressure through their compression strokes, the crank will be difficult to turn...but it should still turn. If it feels like will not turn, do not force it, and recheck that you have it correctly in time.
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Old Aug 2, 2012 | 11:51 AM
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nice project to build these cars are perfect dailys if built to stock! take your time. replace all you can with oem honda parts n ur car will b flauless! good luck
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Old Aug 2, 2012 | 12:04 PM
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Very cool project. Good luck with all that rust!

Also, your MX-5 is lovely.
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Old Aug 3, 2012 | 12:56 AM
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good luck with your project man. can not wait to see the final resualts
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