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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 06:19 AM
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Just collecting some data on a couple different turbos.
Whats the best time and the most power you have made on either a 6262 or a 6266 and what is your setup? How high did you rev?
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 07:20 AM
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made 710hp on 33psi 6262. only made 3 passes on this setup. went 10.5 then 10.3 then 10.0 at 154.
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by DraginX
Just collecting some data on a couple different turbos.
Whats the best time and the most power you have made on either a 6262 or a 6266 and what is your setup? How high did you rev?
KMOD Stg.3 K24 w/ 6266 T3 .82 A/R Turbo
Both set-ups were tested at 26psi
Best ET has been 10.20@150mph(Full Interior RSX Street Car)

Engine:
K20/K24
70mm TB
RBC IM
TSX Cams
11.0 Pistons
Eagle Rods
KMOD K20 Oil Pump
663whp 417wtq @ 8800rpm


Engine:
K20/K24
84mm TB
GATO Race IM
BC Stg.3 Cams
11.0 Pistons
Eagle Rods
KMOD K20 Oil Pump
726whp 487wtq @ 10,000rpm


10.20@150mph video http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...ature=view_all

-Marquis
-KMOD
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 94lsvturbo
made 710hp on 33psi 6262. only made 3 passes on this setup. went 10.5 then 10.3 then 10.0 at 154.
Nice, whats your setup?
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 07:48 AM
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KMOD...10.2@150 @ 26psi on a 6266 in a RSX Street Car? I find that very hard to believe. My car weighed in at 23XX with me in it & 6262 at 28psi and it only went 143. Something doesnt add up. I cant see a Full Body RSX go 150 at only 26psi. Also at 663whp the torque seems ALIL low for being a k24.
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 08:26 AM
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One thing I've learned the last few years is it is very hard to compare car to car.
My old car that I sold a few years back now has a 6266 in it.
The major points of difference between my other buddies car is:
old car:
t3 ramhorn
custom sheetmetal JG copy intake manifold
jg pro series cams
2.5" charge piping
AEM ems

other buddies car:
t4 fullrace topmount
Victor X intake manifold
ITR cams
3" charge piping
Hondata s300

My old car with the new 6266 setup just made 608whp at 25psi, at 18psi this setup was making close to or a bit over 500whp.
My other buddies car only made a little over 400whp at 18psi

Both cars on very simular setups, but one makes much more power per psi. Both heads built by the same shop, both bottom ends almost identical, except the second car actually has 0.5 cr more and a bit bigger bore.

To this day I still kick myself in the *** for selling that car...
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by j-bird20
KMOD...10.2@150 @ 26psi on a 6266 in a RSX Street Car? I find that very hard to believe. My car weighed in at 23XX with me in it & 6262 at 28psi and it only went 143. Something doesnt add up. I cant see a Full Body RSX go 150 at only 26psi. Also at 663whp the torque seems ALIL low for being a k24.
The 2.4 will make more power on less boost then a 2.0.... I'm sure the low Tq is due to low timing.
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 10:49 AM
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i really dont care about the power hes making i know it will make more power with less boost. He states how much power the car made @ 26psi. Im talking about the trap speed and the car being a FULL INTERIOR RSX. I dont see that car going 150 at 26psi with that turbo and at that weight.
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 12:14 PM
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we got a car right now on a t3 6262 on a 81mm stock sleeve motor ... cars pb is a 10.1@ 144 and that was with boost going u to around 32psi... car runs 10.50 index and run constant 10.4's
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 01:26 PM
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32psi/84.5mm b16a2/stock gsr head/t4 6265.
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by j-bird20
i really dont care about the power hes making i know it will make more power with less boost. He states how much power the car made @ 26psi. Im talking about the trap speed and the car being a FULL INTERIOR RSX. I dont see that car going 150 at 26psi with that turbo and at that weight.
We have been 162mph in a full interior 67mm Prelude with only 90whp more.. You do the math..
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by j-bird20
KMOD...10.2@150 @ 26psi on a 6266 in a RSX Street Car? I find that very hard to believe. My car weighed in at 23XX with me in it & 6262 at 28psi and it only went 143. Something doesnt add up. I cant see a Full Body RSX go 150 at only 26psi.
Originally Posted by j-bird20
i really dont care about the power hes making i know it will make more power with less boost. He states how much power the car made @ 26psi. Im talking about the trap speed and the car being a FULL INTERIOR RSX. I dont see that car going 150 at 26psi with that turbo and at that weight.
It takes more than JUST max power on a dyno to make a car accelerate thru the qtr mile. Let me see your dyno graph, your gearing, tire size, & shift points- & i'll show you why our car traps 150 mph & weighs 2700lbs, while your car traps only 143mph weighing 350lbs less while running the same size turbo on more boost. Also take a look at your timeslip- Our car back halves 37-39mph. I bet yours back halves about 30mph.
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-Marquis
-KMOD
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by KeseK24RSX
It takes more than JUST max power on a dyno to make a car accelerate thru the qtr mile. Let me see your dyno graph, your gearing, tire size, & shift points- & i'll show you why our car traps 150 mph & weighs 2700lbs, while your car traps only 143mph weighing 350lbs less while running the same size turbo on more boost. Also take a look at your timeslip- Our car back halves 37-39mph. I bet yours back halves about 30mph.
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-Marquis
-KMOD
i can vouch for Marquis. Have saw the car in person at the track and it moves very well. it has veryyy short gears also
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 03:10 PM
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517/340 on 93pump gas and 17psi
6262 JB
84mm GSR 9:1cr
01 ITR cams
Go-Autoworks Top Mount
GSR Trans w/MFactory LSD on 24.5 MT's

Car has gone best ET of 11.28 and best trap of 129(11.4 pass). Full interior 4dr GSR with 10 point cage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KQyD...3&feature=plcp



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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DraginX
Nice, whats your setup?
GE sleeved ls vtec
cp 9.0:1
eagle rod
stock port head and gsr cams
supertech v/t
walbro/044 combo
1600ss inj

t3 dbb 6262
ramhorn mani
cx racing i/c
mkc 2.5in charge pipes

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Old Jul 24, 2012 | 05:07 PM
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Default Re: Best time/power

Originally Posted by DraginX
One thing I've learned the last few years is it is very hard to compare car to car.
My old car that I sold a few years back now has a 6266 in it.
The major points of difference between my other buddies car is:
old car:
t3 ramhorn
custom sheetmetal JG copy intake manifold
jg pro series cams
2.5" charge piping
AEM ems

other buddies car:
t4 fullrace topmount
Victor X intake manifold
ITR cams
3" charge piping
Hondata s300

My old car with the new 6266 setup just made 608whp at 25psi, at 18psi this setup was making close to or a bit over 500whp.
My other buddies car only made a little over 400whp at 18psi

Both cars on very simular setups, but one makes much more power per psi. Both heads built by the same shop, both bottom ends almost identical, except the second car actually has 0.5 cr more and a bit bigger bore.

To this day I still kick myself in the *** for selling that car...
A couple other things to keep in mind now that the second car has been on the dyno again (I own the second car)...

The first time when it was on, it had 0 kms on it. Fresh rebuild, without any running besides loading it on the trailer. When it was tuned to the 18psi, the cams weren't degreed. Last week when I was on the dyno, we made a pull with the same map that made 451 at 18psi before. Only difference was some kms on the engine, the cams being degreed and the fuel was not a 50/50 mixture of C16 and 93 Octane, but straight C16. It made 521whp on its first pass off the trailer. Quite a difference.

As we were tuning, we were comparing the two builds at different amounts of boost, and I remember the other car's owner saying that our numbers were almost identical throughout. As we kept increasing boost, the graph kept taking off, as did his. We ended at 596whp and 354 tq at 25 psi. After talking to the tuner, the first setup had quite a bit more timing in it as well. We were quite confident that my setup would copy the other's numbers, but left it as is for now.

I'm sure both cars will see more before the next SCW event. The first setup does make more mid range power. At the end of the tuning session, we overlaid the two graphs, and they are similar. The first setup builds a bit more power earlier, but than levels out, where the second setup stays lower, but builds power more consistently.

I really can't tell you what is better, just after the second tune, the two seemed to mirror eachother a lot better.

After the season is over, the plan is to take my manifold, turbo, and downpipe, throw it on his engine, and see what the difference is. That may be the only way to give a fair comparison.
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