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Old Jul 10, 2012 | 08:19 PM
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Ok, so i have function and form type 1 coilovers, skunk2 lower control arms, and the rest of the suspension parts are stock on my 97 civic coupe. I was told that when you notice the lower control arms slanted from the rear, it means you're too low. I was told that the control arms are supposed to be going straight across parallel to the frame. I don't know if this theory is true or not but it seems logical to me. i was also told that it would cause too much stress on all your suspension parts when it passes that point. can someone tell me if i am too low from looking at the behind? i don't think its all that low like some of these "hella flush" people. but i need a second opinion please. thanks

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Old Jul 10, 2012 | 08:43 PM
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 02:18 AM
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^ the tie bar appears to be missing some hardware. Not that it really matters on that car.
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 02:19 AM
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It's not the stress you should be worried about, it's the suspension not behaving properly.

Both of you need to re-size your images.
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 07:17 AM
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my theory is if i cant fit my finger between the tire and the fender its to low for a DD
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 07:59 AM
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Good theory.
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 08:00 AM
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If you have to ask, it's too low.
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 08:04 AM
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my theory is if i cant fit my finger between the tire and the fender its to low for a DD
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my theory is if i cant fit my finger between the tire and the fender its to low for a DD
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 08:54 AM
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my theory is if i cant fit my finger between the tire and the fender its to low for a DD
This is where my car is and I agree. But! I don't have a camber kit and I need camber bad for autocross. As it sits I've got 2* front camber. Once I get my new suspension over the winter I'll lift the car up and set the camber at 3.5*
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 09:16 PM
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glad you all agree with my theory.. everyone i know says my cars 4x4 status and they call me an old man for wanting to have a comfy ride.... owell haha, if i cant fit my jack under the car without b!tchin i hate it. function over form people. low and slow= broken parts.
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by type_r_ek
my theory is if i cant fit my finger between the tire and the fender its to low for a DD
I agree!! IMO 1-2 finger is best.


OP, idealy you want the LCA's flat. If you think your rear LCA's look bad, think about what your doing to to the fronts, axles, and tie rods.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 06:04 AM
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OP, idealy you want the LCA's flat. If you think your rear LCA's look bad, think about what your doing to to the fronts, axles, and tie rods.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 04:36 PM
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This is borderline
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1atLQqSbh4c
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 10:36 AM
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^ 4x4 status if you can see any light under it.
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Progress recommends no less than 11.5" from the wheel center to the top of the fender arch (the only proper way to quantify ride height), and I tend to agree.
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by spAdam
Progress recommends no less than 11.5" from the wheel center to the top of the fender arch (the only proper way to quantify ride height), and I tend to agree.
Stock is 14" up front and 14.25" in the rear on a 96-00 Civic. My car currently sits at 11.5" up front and 11.75" in the rear. IMO this is the lowest a functional car should go.

I have not see that information from Progress until now and I would fully agree. At that height I am using extended top hats on all 4 corners along with 450LB front and 400LB rear springs.
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 1998GsRIntegra
thats hella JDM bro.
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Everyone has there own opinion on how low to go. The rear lca slanting down wont do any damage to your car. Ofcourse ur handling wont b at its best but ur not supposed to b racing through corners on streets anyways. On my em1 i was tucking tires abit and i live in chicago. Never had any problems wit holes or speed bumps. Angle it everytime and get used to scanning the road for rocks and holes and you wont have any problems. Drive around slammed for over 2 years without damaging anything on the car. I also had it midded abit to help. All four fenders pulled out abit. Exhaust i raised as high as i could for more clearnace wit custom brackets and my front lip was on brackets so if i was on a sharp driveway it had room to move up abit the drop back down. Thats all i reLly did and i enjoyed everyday wit it.
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Originally Posted by jdmcivicracer89
Everyone has there own opinion on how low to go. The rear lca slanting down wont do any damage to your car. Ofcourse ur handling wont b at its best but ur not supposed to b racing through corners on streets anyways. On my em1 i was tucking tires abit and i live in chicago. Never had any problems wit holes or speed bumps. Angle it everytime and get used to scanning the road for rocks and holes and you wont have any problems. Drive around slammed for over 2 years without damaging anything on the car. I also had it midded abit to help. All four fenders pulled out abit. Exhaust i raised as high as i could for more clearnace wit custom brackets and my front lip was on brackets so if i was on a sharp driveway it had room to move up abit the drop back down. Thats all i reLly did and i enjoyed everyday wit it.
Sounds like a ridiculous amount of work just to maintain a look.
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 07:00 AM
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with one finger gap you dont have to raise anything.. alter anything just drop and go!
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 07:38 AM
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Haha alil work yes but makes car alot better for street driving instead of scrapping everywhere. If you like something or a look go for it. I was sorta obsesed wit going low and i built the car aroind that to not have issues. I also tracked the car at that hiht qithout any issues. Now dont think i mean tucking the full tire into the fenders i had it to the tire slightly was under just barwly covered thread.
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by jdmcivicracer89
Haha alil work yes but makes car alot better for street driving instead of scrapping everywhere. If you like something or a look go for it. I was sorta obsesed wit going low and i built the car aroind that to not have issues. I also tracked the car at that hiht qithout any issues. Now dont think i mean tucking the full tire into the fenders i had it to the tire slightly was under just barwly covered thread.
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by type_r_ek
post pics
Gonna have to dig em up car got totaled last winter. F250 forgot he that brakes stop a car plowed into my rear end and sent me into a crown vic and then into another car. luckily walked out without scratch but car was gone. Ill upload one in a few min
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 07:51 AM
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my opinion is that if it's screwin the tires up on the inside and i can't even drive without worrying about messin something up, it might be too low!
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