I am about to have a B18C1 built NA but in the future plan to add a NX direct port fogger system.Should I sleeve the motor for a 125 dp shot?No plans for a turbo in the future.Would the sleeving prolong the life of the engine spraying that much or would it hold up fine without it.Ill probably go with the sleeving because I want this engine to be bombproof. Just wanted some experienced opinions. Thanks, Here's the skimmy:

JE pistons/rings 20 over w/ 11:1 comp
Eagle Rods
Balanced and Blueprinted
Gaskets and Bearings
Port and Polish Level 2
oversize SS valves
Skunk2 stage 2 cams
Skunk2 cam gears
Clutchnet 6 puck
MSD 6AL
Walboro fuel pump

NX direct port fogger


[Modified by GSRTUNR, 2:25 PM 10/15/2002]


[Modified by GSRTUNR, 2:30 PM 10/15/2002]

 

id like to know whether to sleeve or not too because i am building it and right now i am driving a rent a car (about a 550 per month saturn!)

i am looking at spending around 850 total to sleeve the block and id say it would run me an extra months time to send it out (+550!), have them do it then get it back...

that's why id like to know if i should sleeve the block or should i be ok to do 15psi...oh and im taking it to the fellas at inline-pro to tune...1

 

simply answer, YES

boost = more pressure on the engine. stock sleeve can only handle ~12psi, if oyu have boost spike, for even a second, it could cause your sleeves to shatter.

sleeving is the only way to go. even when i called JE about a year ago, they told me that re-sleeving was required when using their pistons and rings.

do it right the first time, you won't be dis-pleased

EDIT: I just saw the part about N/A w/ the possibility of spray. you will want new sleeves with nitrous as well, b/c of pressure, heat etc.

contact Viren (b18bturbo), he can get you the mad hookup on a GE sleeve job (pardon my "stunna" slang)


[Modified by Boosted97Lude, 12:29 AM 10/16/2002]

 

blah blah blah

 

not entirely true...

there's guys, on this board even, that run as much as 20+ psi on STOCK sleeves with no problems..as the cliche goes, it's all in the tuning (and also in the block you choose) the B18C is a good platform to build from...you can easily run 12-16psi of boost on the sleeves with no probs...in fact, i'm doing a B18C buildup right now with a B16 head...

 

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2. (MANY people use JE's on stock sleeves. )
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i'll just keep on laughing, if you wanna be cheap, and do it the HALF *** way, go right ahead and listen to these guys. but when your **** blows up, or you turn one of your cylinder into a giant egg, all i'll do is keep laughing and you can keep listening to these guys.

 

No one is saying that your wrong.

I am just bashing you for making it such a one sided view of the subject.

This topic has been beaten into the ground a bizzilion times so Its not worth bitching over....

good night

 

i totally disagree. Proper tuning prevents such things as cracked sleeves. By proper tuning, I mean systems with safeguards on top of proper engine management. For example, Hondata has a boost cut feature which, if you do get a boost spike, will prevent you from destroying your motor. I've done 14-15psi on stock B series blocks without an issue, and all of them are still running strong (save one broken crank, and that was not boost related).

I've also used JE pistons and rings with stock sleeves, no problems there either. JE is notorious for giving random and innaccurate technical advice.

 

Thanks for the feedback Boosted97Lude, bout to get the build started.

 

everyone is right, and it all depends on how much you want to spend. Me personally i just went ahead and sleeved the block since i'll be running 20+psi at the track. I did it to be safe. If your only shooting for a moderate number, tuning will keep you very safe. If you have a knowledgeable engine builder that person should beable to tell you what the max you can do is.