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EG (92-95) VS ES (01-05) RELIABILITY?

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Old Jul 3, 2012 | 10:36 AM
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Looking for a daily driver im not sure which generation to get...

What ive heard the EG were more reliable and quality went down in 7th gen and the 1.7 motor was not as good... But this is just people around me talking


SO if i could get opinions ????
Old Jul 3, 2012 | 10:57 AM
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All depends on how well you take care of them. I have seen a 04 go over 250K as well as an EG.
Old Jul 3, 2012 | 11:01 AM
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The last question you asked about this you voiced a concern as to the lack of power. Sorry to tell you that NEITHER of those generation of Civic had "power". If you're looking at power as a criteria I might offer the opinion that you look into getting another kind of car altogether.

Hondas by their nature are reliable. Don't know where your friends are getting this misinformation.

My second opinion would be to stop listening to the people around you.
Old Jul 3, 2012 | 11:17 AM
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New for new '92 - '95 hands down. That said other factors (rust if you live in an area where it's an issue) may make the '01 - '05 a better buy.

'01 - '05s were notorious for blowing headgaskets, but so were '92 - '95s with the D15B7 and D15B8 (D15Z1 and D16Z6s weren't affected though)
Old Jul 3, 2012 | 11:22 AM
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If you are approaching this from the aspect of available aftermarket support then 5th/6th generation hands down.

Reliable is all in how the car was taken care of.
Old Jul 3, 2012 | 04:19 PM
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for easy of repair the 92-95 win hands down (what the hell is with the wing-nuts to tighten the belts on the 2001 -05?)and the suspension design is way better for handling. You might also look at 96-00 civic's they are also good platforms and newer so it might be easier to find a clean example.
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01-05 seemed to have a seat belt issue that annoyed a lot of people, if I recall.
Old Jul 3, 2012 | 09:44 PM
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In the real world, the newer the car, the more reliable, so to speak, although EG generation is a better car, just older. In fact, i would say the 01-05 civic is the worst generation of civic over the past 25 years....period! The model before and afterward are both better in many many ways
Old Jul 4, 2012 | 03:08 AM
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well if ur not a big car person go with the newer. simple fact if u have motor issues u can take it somewere they can scan it an fix it dont think reliability think ease of repair if ur less macanically inclined
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Originally Posted by Deetz
In the real world, the newer the car, the more reliable, so to speak, although EG generation is a better car, just older. In fact, i would say the 01-05 civic is the worst generation of civic over the past 25 years....period! The model before and afterward are both better in many many ways
Id say the worst civic over the past 25 years was the most recent gen.... (worst civic sales ever among design flaws, etc...No wonder honda re-vamped it in 2 years)

either way, id personally take a EG, I have 2 in my family with both well into the 400k mark....headgaskets are cheap, and theres plenty of parts avail.
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Originally Posted by redm3turbo
Id say the worst civic over the past 25 years was the most recent gen.... (worst civic sales ever among design flaws, etc...No wonder honda re-vamped it in 2 years)
Although i would agree, the current design does have it's issues and an aging chassis along with current sales declining due to that reason.....i still think the previous gen had even more. Honda had really cut corners with it. The suspension was sub par, the struts were blowing out pre maturely, the engine was under powered and nothing could really be done to it, and the design was boring...............guess it's all a matter of opinion

I bought and still own some of my favorite Honda designs over the years mentioned

- 89 CRX Si
- 00 Civic EM1
- 02 RSX
Old Jul 4, 2012 | 06:28 AM
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^ id be inclined to agree with you there.

I think my favorite is still the crx. I had a 88 si..(sold off in 2000 though unfortunately)
I drove the new crz....eh. Id rather have the 120hp crx.

2nd has to be the EM1..
Old Jul 4, 2012 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by redm3turbo
Id say the worst civic over the past 25 years was the most recent gen.... (worst civic sales ever among design flaws, etc...No wonder honda re-vamped it in 2 years)

either way, id personally take a EG, I have 2 in my family with both well into the 400k mark....headgaskets are cheap, and theres plenty of parts avail.
are you talking about 06-11 gen civic as being the worst or 12 model year?
Old Jul 4, 2012 | 10:19 AM
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Theres a reason they only made the 01 to 05 civics for 4 years... The 01 and 02's have the worst auto trans they have had ALOT of customers that have had there automatics last only 70 to 80k miles
Old Jul 4, 2012 | 08:04 PM
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well i was asking this cause i just need a DD. i was looking at the d15z1 in a EG or a 7th gen hx (D17A6)
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Originally Posted by Hidenplanvew
Theres a reason they only made the 01 to 05 civics for 4 years...
They only made '92 - '95 Civics for 4 years...
Old Jul 5, 2012 | 02:19 AM
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They only made '92 - '95 Civics for 4 years...
Same with 88-91. And the 84-87. And the 80-83. Is anyone else starting to see a pattern?

Also, if you want to argue reliability on how many years a certain model was made, then the EM1 must have broken down all the time, being made from 99-00.
Old Jul 5, 2012 | 05:56 AM
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what kind of mpg did the 7th gen manual trans HX D17A6 get? and when i go looking for these how can i tell if it has the motor will it say vtec-e on the top? cause im unsure if they say HX on the back of the car

thx
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MPG for a transmission? Zero.
Old Jul 5, 2012 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by wantboost1
what kind of mpg did the 7th gen manual trans HX D17A6 get? and when i go looking for these how can i tell if it has the motor will it say vtec-e on the top? cause im unsure if they say HX on the back of the car

thx
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MPG for a transmission? Zero.
what kind of mpg did the 7th gen HX D17A6 with manual trans get? (is that better!)
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Google.
https://www.google.com/search?q=mpg+...ient=firefox-a
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say that no matter what answers we give to as many questions as you ask, you're going to get your first impulse buy that comes available. Nothing against you, we've seen it only about a hundred times on these forums.

Personally, I would go for a 92-98 DX. Absolute base, absolutely inexpensive, and it'll give you a real chance to learn absolutely everything about these cars as you upgrade well, uh, everything.
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get the eg. do not buy 01-05s they are junk. i have at least one every week come into my work with a blown head gasket or some other huge problem. also had one the other week come in with 90k miles with a broken timing belt. didnt even last hondas service interval.
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Originally Posted by MikesEJ1
are you talking about 06-11 gen civic as being the worst or 12 model year?
I would say both, which would be 8th and 9th gen

8th gen has the famous random block cracking issue that seemed to plague many '06-'10's.

And besides the looks that's the only reason I need to stay away from those. As for 9th gen's, those aren't even civics. Honda just made an ugly car for old people, I mean really old people, forgot to make a civic so they just stuck the name to this car like a bandaid.
Old Jul 5, 2012 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jbpnoman
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that no matter what answers we give to as many questions as you ask, you're going to get your first impulse buy that comes available. Nothing against you, we've seen it only about a hundred times on these forums.

Personally, I would go for a 92-98 DX. Absolute base, absolutely inexpensive, and it'll give you a real chance to learn absolutely everything about these cars as you upgrade well, uh, everything.
thanks for the info guys im gonna go with a EG. Im aiming for pure mpg im not upgrading. this will be my DD. i have a summer/track car.
im curious though how can u tell a 7th gen if its a hx im unsure if they write the trim at the rear of the car/???



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