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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 01:17 PM
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This question was posted in another forum so i though i would ask the same questions to see what you guys think. so here it is

Let's say you're building up a project car to race. Which mods do you do first and which last? Take the mod list below and arrange them in the order you think they should be done (and you have to give a reason why you picked that order).

- engine (HP increases)
- brakes
- suspension (springs, shocks)
- safety (seats, harness, fire extinguisher)
- wheels & tires
- drivetrain (transmission, clutch, axles, rear-end)
- chassis (roll cage, strut bars)

Note: If you ask any race teams, you'll get pretty much the same answer from all of them, so there is a correct answer.


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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 01:21 PM
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Default Re: Quiz.. What to do first? (G-Prime)

You can't race w/o safety equipment, so guess what's #1 on the "list"!?
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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 01:25 PM
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Default Re: Quiz.. What to do first? (G-Prime)

imo...

- safety (seats, harness, fire extinguisher) - roll cage falls under this
- wheels & tires
- brakes
- suspension (springs, shocks)
- engine (HP increases)
- chassis (strut bars)
- drivetrain
?

edit: add drivetrain


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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 01:29 PM
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Default Re: Quiz.. What to do first? (G-Prime)

my guess is
-cage
-safety
-suspension
-brakes
-wheels/tires
-engine
-drivetrain
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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 01:36 PM
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Step 1:
cage
killswitch
brakes
harnesses

Done. You now have a basic racecar.

Step 2:
suspension
tires

Now your car should be pretty fast for it's class.

Step 3:
engine mods, appropriate to race series

Now it should be REALLY fast.

Warren
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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 01:39 PM
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Default Re: Quiz.. Put these in order (G-Prime)

This question was posted in another forum so i though i would ask the same questions to see what you guys think. so here it is

Let's say you're building up a project car to race. Which mods do you do first and which last? Take the mod list below and arrange them in the order you think they should be done (and you have to give a reason why you picked that order).

- engine (HP increases)
- brakes
- suspension (springs, shocks)
- safety (seats, harness, fire extinguisher)
- wheels & tires
- drivetrain (transmission, clutch, axles, rear-end)
- chassis (roll cage, strut bars)

Note: If you ask any race teams, you'll get pretty much the same answer from all of them, so there is a correct answer.


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-cage and safety equipment
-wheels and tires
-suspension
-brakes
-engine
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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 06:41 PM
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Are we limited to the car? If you want to go fast work on the driver.
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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 06:50 PM
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I'm in the middle of building a racecar on a budget. My order was:

-cage
-harness
-seat
-fix/replace broken stuff
-stuff to meet the rules
-suspension
-tires
-pile of parts waiting for action
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Old Oct 15, 2002 | 06:05 AM
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Default Re: Quiz.. Put these in order (G-Prime)

While my car is still a street car I'm going:
Wheels/tires
Suspension
Brakes
Rollbar
Minor engine mods

Who knows what I'll do after that, H4 or H1... I guess it depends on how strong the engine is running and how much money I have to play with. Anyway, I think my order is pretty much right for what I'm planning on doing at the track.
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Old Oct 15, 2002 | 06:08 AM
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Driver = #1
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Old Oct 15, 2002 | 06:12 AM
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Driver = #1
One of those *****... I think if they're in this forum that certain things are understood.
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Old Oct 15, 2002 | 06:16 AM
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Default Re: Quiz.. Put these in order (JMU1337)

You'd be surprised how many people come in here and say "I want to start [insert "autocrossing" or "roadracing" here]. What mods should I do first?

They never even realize how much potential a stock car has - or how much they can learn from a stock car.

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Old Oct 15, 2002 | 06:30 AM
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Default Re: Quiz.. Put these in order (Drew M)

You're preaching to the choir though.
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Old Oct 15, 2002 | 01:16 PM
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You would think, but the goofy stuff that a lot of us spend our $$ on suggest that maybe we should hear it again. And again. And again...

Kirk
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Old Oct 15, 2002 | 01:28 PM
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1)safety has to be first, including the cage. If you aren't smart enough to figure that out, I hope you get injured in a way that will keep you from reproducing.

2)wheels and tires. No matter what you do to the car, it only makes contact with the ground in 4 places - the tires. If they suck, everything else is a waste of time.

3)brakes. You have to be able to stop it. Speed is no good when you go flying off in turn 1.

4)suspension. oh what a difference that makes....

5)engine. Once the other things are sorted out, THEN you go for more power.

6)other drivetrain - meaning LSD I'm assuming.

7)strut bars, and other fine tuning crap


Matt
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Old Oct 15, 2002 | 02:09 PM
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Default Re: Quiz.. Put these in order (Drew M)

They never even realize how much potential a stock car has - or how much they can learn from a stock car.
True, but you can't legally roadrace a stock car (not even in showroom stock). I'm in agreement, I think focusing on driver is implied. I mean, nobody told him to buy a helmet or suit, again because it's assumed.
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