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Old Jun 6, 2012 | 04:13 PM
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Hey guys. I'm a beginner here trying to do a first time engine pull and mount. My question is this: Where are the lift points on the engine? I know that there is a bracket on the power steering and also the transmission, but I don't want to use the transmission one because it doesn't make sense since I am going to mount it on an engine stand with the crane.

Someone on another forum told me to use those two points but it doesn't make sense to me, there must be other points which are better for lifting it.

If someone has some pictures it would be great... Please provide pics.

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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 01:48 PM
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If you don't like the factory lift points.....make up your own, at your own risk.
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 02:40 PM
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Use the factory lift hangers. Pull the engine and trans out of the car and place it on the ground. place a couple 2x4s on the ground if you are worried about the oil pan. Remove the transmission from the engine block and mount the engine stand bracket to your block. Then using the PS lift bracket and any usable spot on the engine stand bracket. Lift the engine with your lift and slide the cylinder of the engine stand bracket into the engine stand......

Sorry I didn't take any pictures of this procedure.
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 05:00 PM
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If you don't like the factory lift points.....make up your own, at your own risk.
On cb7tuner.com, there is a removal guide which tells you to use two completely different points. They both appear to be on the engine. This is better since I want to put it on the stand.

See here:





Let me know what you think.
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 05:06 PM
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Well it's obvious that you are just looking for affirmation. Therefore, I say do what you want and let us know how it works out for you.

Just a heads up, IMO it is much easier to take the engine and trans out as a complete unit......
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 05:22 PM
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Well it's obvious that you are just looking for affirmation. Therefore, I say do what you want and let us know how it works out for you.

Just a heads up, IMO it is much easier to take the engine and trans out as a complete unit......
That's what the guy did in the removal guide, except his was a manual.

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Use the factory lift hangers. Pull the engine and trans out of the car and place it on the ground. place a couple 2x4s on the ground if you are worried about the oil pan. Remove the transmission from the engine block and mount the engine stand bracket to your block. Then using the PS lift bracket and any usable spot on the engine stand bracket. Lift the engine with your lift and slide the cylinder of the engine stand bracket into the engine stand...... .
So what you are saying is that after I remove the transmission from the engine, I should take the engine stand bracket, attach it to the transmission side of the engine (using the bolts from the tranny), hook the engine hoist chain to the engine stand bracket (somehow) AND the PS lift bracket, so that I can lift it to the engine stand?

Maybe i'll just use the other points I showed in the pics to put in on the stand.... Thanks anyway.
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 04:11 AM
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just my $.02 but...

In the picture on the left it's hard to tell what it's bolted to but if it's bolted down with a trans bolt you'll still need to set the engine down to remove the trans. Also, with the chains being bolted down lower like they are in those pictures there is more chances for the chain to rub on other parts of the engine during removal. In the picture on the left it looks like that sensor is close as well as the distributor and in the picture on the right the upper side engine cover could get damaged.

When I've pulled the engine from my 95 EX I used the factory lift points and had no problems. I did just as GA had described by placing the engine on blocks on the ground, removing the transmission, attaching engine stand bracket, lifting to the engine stand using one factory lift point and the bracket as the other.
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Old Jun 16, 2012 | 04:49 PM
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just my $.02 but...

In the picture on the left it's hard to tell what it's bolted to but if it's bolted down with a trans bolt you'll still need to set the engine down to remove the trans. Also, with the chains being bolted down lower like they are in those pictures there is more chances for the chain to rub on other parts of the engine during removal. In the picture on the left it looks like that sensor is close as well as the distributor and in the picture on the right the upper side engine cover could get damaged.
Yeah, I think I've decided not to use those points. The hangers look better, only thing is I have an engine leveler (like this), gonna have to get some bolts tomorrow I guess and use those. Any ideas on what size I should get?

This is the one I'm using:



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When I've pulled the engine from my 95 EX I used the factory lift points and had no problems. I did just as GA had described by placing the engine on blocks on the ground, removing the transmission, attaching engine stand bracket, lifting to the engine stand using one factory lift point and the bracket as the other.
Gotcha, gonna get some bolts and nuts tomorrow. Would a tire do better or just as good as blocks of wood? My brother used old tires for his sr-20 (240sx) swap. He put the engine on a tire on the ground.



Thanks a lot for the input, gonna need some prayers, its my first time pulling an engine and doing a rebuild.
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Old Jun 16, 2012 | 05:00 PM
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Drop the engine and lift the car. Its very easy. Just make sure your equipment is strong enough for the job.
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Old Jun 16, 2012 | 05:52 PM
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Drop the engine and lift the car. Its very easy. Just make sure your equipment is strong enough for the job.
Seriously? I cannot lift the car up that high, my jack won't even lift the car above the first level on my jack stands.

Besides, others have advised me not to do that since it is harder.
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 06:29 AM
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Actually if you have the ability to lift the car I found it much easier to drop the complete drive train. I have done it both ways and dropping it was easier. However, I had the proper tools to lift the car and slide the engine out. Without them it would be a bit more difficult.
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 05:40 PM
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I personally have tried to lift the engine out of a 1990 Accord auto. It did not come out without be breaking the crank pulley and scratching the body. I bought this accord for parts and I just wanted to yank the motor. So I cut off the engine mounts and pulled it. It took way to long. It would work with a load leveler.

I have also done a swap where I dropped the engine it falls right out!!!! The hard part is sliding the engine out. I used my 2 ton engine hoist wrapped around the front of the car and chains on the tow hooks. Also when re installing the new motor you slide it under, drop the car, then lift the motor with the hoist. Its so easy.
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by uberEFtuner
I personally have tried to lift the engine out of a 1990 Accord auto. It did not come out without be breaking the crank pulley and scratching the body. I bought this accord for parts and I just wanted to yank the motor. So I cut off the engine mounts and pulled it. It took way to long. It would work with a load leveler.

I have also done a swap where I dropped the engine it falls right out!!!! The hard part is sliding the engine out. I used my 2 ton engine hoist wrapped around the front of the car and chains on the tow hooks. Also when re installing the new motor you slide it under, drop the car, then lift the motor with the hoist. Its so easy.
Interesting, but unorthodox in my opinion.

Engine fell right out, lol, must have sucked.

What i've decided to do is remove the ex/in manifolds and the cyl head and use the head bolts to lift it. I already did this today and so its perfectly primed for removal. Took me an hour or two but it was worth it, got to see the health of my cylinder head. Didn't look good, see this thread: http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthre...=1#post3014608

With the engine leveler, I will have four perfect lift spots to lift the engine from so i am thankful for that.
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 09:08 PM
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well this is unorthodoxed and alot of people on here are going to be like wtf but i used the one stock mount and wrapped a chain around my intake manifold right in front of where the throttle body connects and it it worked fine but watch out for the sensors right there and if u break n e thing its not on me lol....dont try this at home
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 11:42 PM
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What you do is you remove the front to back member. Then you drop the engine in with the transmission down, then use a jack to jack up the tranny into place. If you don't remove the front to back member you will crush your crank pulley.
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